Never wrote anything about the NCAA. Both of those universities issues were and are well beyond the NCAA. But so far, neither have been penalized in any meaningful way.I can see the case for NCAA intervention here (even if the unintended consequences are bad), but I think using Penn State as an example for NCAA intervention is misguided.
The big difference here and what might change everything is that Penn State wasn't using child rape as a recruiting tactic (we don't know yet if Baylor recruits or transfers on visits were at these alleged parties with the dog fights and running trains on drugged woman). Further to that, Penn State wasn't gaining a competitive advantage by covering up for Sandusky while Baylor just might have had an institution-wide program of non-reporting, police complicity and intimidation of victims in order to protect the football team. Last, there are the Title IX aspects and NCAA rules about gender participation that may have been violated by Baylor not protecting its female athletes (volleyball player is latest lawsuit).Never wrote anything about the NCAA. Both of those universities issues were and are well beyond the NCAA. But so far, neither have been penalized in any meaningful way.
But, to be clear, if the NCAA actually had any authority, there was clear lack of institutional control at Penn State too.
The big difference here and what might change everything is that Penn State wasn't using child rape as a recruiting tactic (we don't know yet if Baylor recruits or transfers on visits were at these alleged parties with the dog fights and running trains on drugged woman). Further to that, Penn State wasn't gaining a competitive advantage by covering up for Sandusky while Baylor just might have had an institution-wide program of non-reporting, police complicity and intimidation of victims in order to protect the football team. Last, there are the Title IX aspects and NCAA rules about gender participation that may have been violated by Baylor not protecting its female athletes (volleyball player is latest lawsuit).
So, while both situations are unconscionable, it appears as though the NCAA did not have jurisdiction over the Penn State scandal because it was only a criminal issue (NCAA penalties against PSU were later overturned under legal challenge). With the Baylor scandal, there is reason to suspect that the criminal issues cross over into things of which the NCAA has jurisdiction -- namely, issues of competition and compliance.
My niece goes there and says that there are basically 2 different universities on campus. one that evolves around sports and another that has absolutely nothing to do with it. Blows my mind that a large part of the student body is ambivalent towards the issue, since they have nothing to do with that side of the university. I feel bad for my niece, but hope this gets huge national attention just to show the rest of the university that institutional bad decisions, and outright criminal behavior, by the athletic department has profound ramifications on the rest of the university.How/why does any female decide to go to bailer at this point? No way would I send a daughter there....
Other schools use CU as a case study. Better to deny, cover up, pay off, and move on as if nothing happened.The irony between CU and Baylor is palpable. CU will potentially kill its up and coming football program by its own hand in a case where the coach and AD tried to do the correct thing and fired the perpetrator. Bailer, meanwhile, fosters a culture of sexual assault against women and continues to recruit top talent and support its rogue program. To add to it, they basically blew off the law firm that investigated them and we are giving the same firm Carte Blanche.
Yep. "Man! Don't be like CU!" Nobility is wonderful. But it doesn't garner much respect.Other schools use CU as a case study. Better to deny, cover up, pay off, and move on as if nothing happened.
At the end of this article:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts...cle_1b391c59-1722-5532-9c3b-058b07850249.html
There is one player convicted, one player who had his conviction over turned on a technicality and is awaiting a new trail, and 3 players charged and awaiting trial. So potentially 5 convicted rapists at one university, under one coach, all committing multiple acts.
Sounds like lack of institutional control to me.
Excellent use of "taint" as a verb. That place is so foul.This school will be forever tainted by these allegations. I'm hoping that this will eventually bring an end to the school in its entirety.
Disgusting behavior by every single person involved. I'm curious as to whether female enrollment has dropped or whether it will this fall. No way in hell I would send a daughter there.
The irony between CU and Baylor is palpable. CU will potentially kill its up and coming football program by its own hand in a case where the coach and AD tried to do the correct thing and fired the perpetrator. Bailer, meanwhile, fosters a culture of sexual assault against women and continues to recruit top talent and support its rogue program. To add to it, they basically blew off the law firm that investigated them and we are giving the same firm Carte Blanche.
Brass tacks. Would you rather be CU or (****) Bailer?
Hear, hear!I don't know why Baylor isn't used. It's the Baylor brand that is stained. The use of the misspelling trivializes the seriousness of the allegations and felonies. Baylor doesn't deserve a nick name. Nobody calls Charles Manson "Chuck" or the San Andres Fault "Andre".
The Baylor brand directly ties to rape, murder, lying, cheating and cover-up. It's who they are. And we on AllBuff should own up to this fact.
**** Baylor
The only problem with saying this is that they probably believe that it means people are cheering them on.
Well, I would hope so by now.They know what people are saying and what it means.
They know what people are saying and what it means.
I think the point is, there isn't a lot of stigma so far, for whatever reason. I blame Waco and the state of Texas in that order.Why would a recruit want the stigma, the rest of his life, of having been a Baylor Bear? "Yeah, I played football at Baylor." "Oh yeah? How many chicks did you rape? Haha."