Define "a lot."
AllBuffs | Unofficial fan site for the University of Colorado at Boulder Athletics programs
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
-
Prime Time. Prime Time. Its a new era for Colorado football. Consider signing up for a club membership! For $20/year, you can get access to all the special features at Allbuffs, including club member only forums, dark mode, avatars and best of all no ads ! But seriously, please sign up so that we can pay the bills. No one earns money here, and we can use your $20 to keep this hellhole running. You can sign up for a club membership by navigating to your account in the upper right and clicking on "Account Upgrades". Make it happen!
Bench Montez (9-14 edition)
- Thread starter Buffnik
- Start date
Define "a lot."
We’ve been talking about his inconsistencies for 2+ years now. At what point does “consistency issues” with his accuracy actually become “he’s just not that accurate”?
After 30 starts, it is going to kick in.
I would say multiple teams in every P5 conference.
We tend to focus on his failings, and no question he has failings, but many starting college QBs have similar or worse failings.
Again not trying to claim he is a top flight guy. each of those same conferences also have multiple teams who would gladly pass on him as well.
Simple nature of football fans is that most fans watch the ball and when a team fails they tend to blame the guy who has the ball the most for their team.
Any time a team isn't winning the most popular guy in town is the back up QB. We have been losing for so long that our fans are just in the habit of complaining about the QB.
We had multiple players who had much worse games today than Montez did but not a word about them, they aren't the QB.
Hahaha. Terry Bradshaw? Come on now, you have to be kidding me.
So exactly what is your solution. Playing a guy who the coaches believe to not be as good at the time because he is "different."
Sorry but I'll take HCMTs opinion over a superfan on a message board.
I highly doubt that we are magically 3-0 because Montez was replaced by one of our other QBs.
It also keeps getting mentioned that Montez is a 5th year senior. He is but we will never know what he would be had those first four years been spent on a team with a winning staff. For a staff that put it's reputation on developing players the last staff didn't really develop very many. Montez has experience on a losing team with lousy pass protection.
I would relish the terror ASU would feel if we throw Lytle out there.
He is a mediocre QB. We can stop talking about the potential and/or his inconsistency. He is just a decent QB capable of great throws and lazy mechanics leading to inaccurate throws back to back. He does not really use his legs to make plays either.
A multi-year starter at QB is going to be expected to make plays, it comes with the territory. That is not being unfair to him.
The days of expecting him to be an all-conference QB are long gone, but he needs to occasionally take over games for this team to make a bowl game. Again, not an unfair standard for a multi-year starter.
I know, I know, it’s everybody else’s fault but Montez. If only he had a better staff, a better playcaller, better players around him, better blocking, better running game and better defense, he would finally realize all this outstanding potential.
I dont! Hes slow and afraid of contact.
So what exactly is your solution genius? I guess we have Peyton Manning and Joe Montana waiting on the bench to take over.
I am not in any way trying to say that Montez is a great QB, sometimes he isn't even a good QB.
He also though isn't a terrible QB and we have a lot more problems that just the guy trying to catch the snaps that are being launched over his head.
Making Montez the scapegoat for an entire team's worth of errors is ridiculous.
I’m not doing that, though. I dished out criticism to the OL, Russell, Landman, JVD, the entire Secondary, coaching staff and even Viska for his 3rd down drop. It’s not squarely on Montez, but as THE guy that touches the ball every play makes the offense go, he is going to get the bulk of the blame when he doesn’t play very well and the offense puts up 23 points at home to a G5 Academy program.
As for my solution, I didn’t say I had one. I simply said that you (and others) keep calling it inconsistencies, and I believe after 30 starts at this level, it’s disingenuous to simply call him inconsistent; his accuracy is just not all that great. He’s a mediocre QB who isn’t all that capable of making guys around him better.
Last edited:
OUBuff
American
Therefore the read option should be out of the playbook. If it is being used, he has to keep it sometimes. Read option is a deception play, it isn't deception if your adversary doesn't believe what you're selling
How many dimes did Montez throw this game? He had that one really great one thrown to the AFA CB. Can’t seem to recall any outstanding throws, but I may be misguided.
He also doesn’t step up in the pocket when he needs to. Yeah, he may take a hit, but it comes with the territory of playing QB.
He also doesn’t step up in the pocket when he needs to. Yeah, he may take a hit, but it comes with the territory of playing QB.
He's the leader and he sucks. Have you ever been on a team like that?
Yeah, they need to scrap it. Nobody is worried about Montez running the ball, even if he kep it sometimes.
Glad you aren't a fan of a team I play on.
And no he doesn't suck. He may not be as good as you would be, doesn't meet your level of play when you are on Madden, but he doesn't suck.
He's a college QB who goes out there every week taking shots in the teeth and the ribs to entertain you.
I've been on teams that won and teams that lost. Neither was because of one guy.
Master Blaster
Ramblin Wreck from Golden Tech
Reminds me a ton of the NFL version of Jameis Winston. Can make every throw on the field... just not consistently. Holds on to the ball seemingly for forever, good for a few “where the hell was that going” throws each game, completely abandons sound mechanics for long stretches, and looks awkward as hell when scrambling.
There’s enough times where he looks unstoppable to give you hope, but is ultimately not a guy you can consistently win with.
I don’t think the backups would fare any better, but I won’t exactly be sad getting off this wild ride at the end of the season
There’s enough times where he looks unstoppable to give you hope, but is ultimately not a guy you can consistently win with.
I don’t think the backups would fare any better, but I won’t exactly be sad getting off this wild ride at the end of the season
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
That's actually a really good way to put it.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
He might be, but I don't see any way in hell he starts next year.
There were guys open on almost every play. He either did not see them, does not go thru progressions, over threw them or threw behind them. He is not a good QB and is what he is. If none of the others can carry water, we are what we saw today. At some point we will lose enough games to at least give another guy a look and see what he can do.
Master Blaster
Ramblin Wreck from Golden Tech
Would prefer him to redshirt and get a grad transfer for next year
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
That would be the ideal. Even if one of Stenstrom or Lytle turns out to be a good QB, it'd be good to get someone proven in here to either be the starter, or if he gets beat out, it means one of the incumbents has turned the corner.
I've heard from two different people today who were at the game saying there were players open all over the field.