Andy and Ari’s rankings. Thoughts? Additions/subtractions? Assuming there’s full admin and AD support, full participation in rev sharing (if house settlement passes), NIL, etc. where does CU rank in the Big 12 and nationally?
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A few surprises (to me) absent from their lists are Florida, Florida State, USC and maybe Tennessee.
Oklahoma?
I guess if you weigh money as your top metric. Alabama does everything possible to be successful. A&M just throws money at it
Where does CU rank? Big 12 and nationally?
Big 12: Top 5
Nationally: Harder to rank among other programs but is it top 30?
Big 12: Top 5
Nationally: Harder to rank among other programs but is it top 30?
Texas has huge resources, money for anything they want. They are also the dream school of almost every blue chip kid who grows up in the State of Texas, arguably the best recruiting grounds in the nation.
Problem with the job is that the culture behind that money makes a bunch of very wealthy donors, moreso that other schools, think they own the program. It's a part of the job everywhere but at Texas the biggest part of the job is kissing the tails of a bunch of old, wealthy, white guys who think they are the AD.
Darrell Royal and Mack Brown were the experts at this and as a result they were able to have huge success and are legends, the standard that all other Texas coaches are held to. Brown had a bunch of those guys who thought they were his best friend.
CU depends entirely on who is in the current administration.
A&M being in anyone's top 25 is crazy. Those boosters have 500 fingers each, and put ALL of them on the scale.
Penn St. to me seems like it should be on this list. Close in financial resources, NONE of the expectations. 1 Conference championship in 11 years, no other appearances. Top 15 salary.
Penn St. to me seems like it should be on this list. Close in financial resources, NONE of the expectations. 1 Conference championship in 11 years, no other appearances. Top 15 salary.
In my original post I said with this new administration that understands the importance of athletics and specifically football. What is CU’s ceiling as a job?
On the current track, and if we see further re-alignment moving CU into a competitive situation financially and on the field with the top level schools I'd put the ceiling as a top 10-15 job. CU won't be a perential playoff team but can be one of those schools that for a given year or even 3-4 can jump up to the top and even win a NC if everything falls right.
Did they say what their criteria was?
If we're going by resources, pay scale and opportunity to win a national championship, the lists are pretty good other than I don't know how you leave USC off and have Oregon at 4 (lots of recency bias).
CU should be somewhere in the 20-30 range, but that might be compromised by the resource disadvantage of not being in the B1G or SEC.
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Whatever they emphasize it to be.
I still question where CU is in regards to NIL. We have heard that CU can compete with the top 10-15 in NIL, but we have yet to see that materialize.
Hard to say. They paid juju a ton, paid Salter a good amount, I just saw a rumor that they had to pay McKinney a ton to keep him, they have the deepest DL they’ve probably ever had, including one of the top DL in the portal this year in Oatis. Obviously paying Seaton. When you consider the guys they brought in from HS, the portal and the top guys they had to retain, I think it’s clear that their NIL situation is in good shape.
That said, they aren’t on the level of Oregon, Ohio State, aTm, Miami, Ole Miss, USC, TTU, etc. What I’ve heard is that they have money but Prime is never going to be Lane Kiffin or Dan Lanning just throwing $$$ at everyone and overpaying guys. He’s pretty selective on who he wants to sign in the first place, and even more selective about who gets the bags.
We’ll see how it pans out as they are going to have to up the talent acquisition game if they truly want to compete for a Natty.
I question whether a team can win a title if they aren't in the top 10 in NIL. It's not even a starter if you are going to be selective with your NIL.
Having Shedeur and Travis starting at CU in 2025 and building around those two with today’s NIL would be doable since those two weren’t costing CU any NIL. But with no Travis type talent and our QB room taking a healthy chunk of NIL, it’s probably going to be hard, unless there are some major rules and enforcement put in place.
Nick Saban is lobbying trump and Republicans to do something about NIL. If a place like Alabama cant compete with the Oil & Gas schools you know we are NOT in the top 15.
Once Salter moves on, that should open up a good chunk for 2-3 good players rather than just 1. So that should help.
Brings up a good question. Would you rather have 1 elite prospect or 3 really, really good ones? In basketball, it's easy to choose elite. But I'm not sure that holds true in footbal unless it's a QB. The budget only goes so far.
Well in this case for football, I’d rather have three good players at other positions of need and the one elite QB (Juju) than have 2 elite QBs. Only one can play.