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BerkeleyBuff said:
Just as much money with dramatically less pressure to actually win big. Give the Aggies a bunch of 7-5, 8-4 seasons with a couple 10-2 and 11-1 years sprinkled in and they'll build you a statue. Sounds pretty alright to me.
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Did not work for Slocum or Sumlin

Head coaching record​

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YearTeamOverallConferenceStandingBowl/playoffsCoaches#AP°
Texas A&M Aggies (Southwest Conference) (1989–1995)
1989Texas A&M8–46–2T–2ndL John Hancock20
1990Texas A&M9–3–15–2–1T–3rdW Holiday1315
1991Texas A&M10–28–01stL Cotton1312
1992Texas A&M12–17–01stL Cotton†67
1993Texas A&M10–27–01stL Cotton†89
1994Texas A&M10–0–16–0–1**8
1995Texas A&M9–35–2T–2ndW Alamo1515
Texas A&M Aggies (Big 12 Conference) (1996–2002)
1996Texas A&M6–64–43rd (South)
1997Texas A&M9–46–21st (South)L Cotton2120
1998Texas A&M11–37–11st (South)L Sugar†1311
1999Texas A&M8–45–3T–2nd (South)L Alamo2023
2000Texas A&M7–55–33rd (South)L Independence
2001Texas A&M8–44–4T–3rd (South)W Galleryfurniture.com
2002Texas A&M6–63–55th (South)
Texas A&M:123–47–278–28–2
Total:123–47–2

Texas A&M Aggies (Southeastern Conference) (2012–2017)
2012Texas A&M11–26–2T–2nd (West)W Cotton55
2013Texas A&M9–44–44th (West)W Chick-fil-A1818
2014Texas A&M8–53–55th (West)W Liberty
2015Texas A&M8–54–4T–5th (West)L Music City
2016Texas A&M8–54–44th (West)L Texas
2017Texas A&M7–5[n 2]4–4T–4th (West)Belk[n 2]
Texas A&M:51–2625–23
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
Just as much money with dramatically less pressure to actually win big. Give the Aggies a bunch of 7-5, 8-4 seasons with a couple 10-2 and 11-1 years sprinkled in and they'll build you a statue. Sounds pretty alright to me.
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Not anymore. There’s a ton of pressure to win there with the amount of money they have thrown around at facilities, stadium, Jimbo buyout and recruiting. Maybe not pressure like DeBoer currently had as the guy immediately following Saban, but Elko will be out in a couple years if they don’t make the CFP
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Not anymore. There’s a ton of pressure to win there with the amount of money they have thrown around at facilities, stadium, Jimbo buyout and recruiting. Maybe not pressure like DeBoer currently had as the guy immediately following Saban, but Elko will be out in a couple years if they don’t make the CFP
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I very much believe that aTm would seriously entertain the idea of switching to the B1G. They left UT's shadow and with the SEC affiliation & money were winning the in-state recruiting battles. Even won a Heisman and expanded their stadium by 20k to a larger capacity that UT. Now, they're back to being the little brother.
 
Buffnik said:
I very much believe that aTm would seriously entertain the idea of switching to the B1G. They left UT's shadow and with the SEC affiliation & money were winning the in-state recruiting battles. Even won a Heisman and expanded their stadium by 20k to a larger capacity that UT. Now, they're back to being the little brother.
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I could see that and there's been subtle rumors of it. Forget where I saw or heard them, might've been on here somewhere. I find it a bit odd that the B1G would be interested in Aggie, seems like UT would've been more of what that conference is looking for if they wanted to get into the state of Texas.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
I could see that and there's been subtle rumors of it. Forget where I saw or heard them, might've been on here somewhere. I find it a bit odd that the B1G would be interested in Aggie, seems like UT would've been more of what that conference is looking for if they wanted to get into the state of Texas.
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Yeah Aggie to B1G won’t happen. Complete mismatch of culture. They fit perfectly in the SEC.
 
Creebuzz said:
Historical top ten vs. current top ten vs. future top ten, what are we talking about here?

For example, Oregon is a current top ten, but neither a historical nor future top ten.
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Oregon is top 10 in wins among power conferences in the last 30 years or so but they won't be a future top 10(or whatever) program? Every(sans Taggart) Oregon coach since Rich Brooks has taken the team to at least one outright conference championship. Unca Fill is going to leave Oregon a multi billion dollar endowment.

They're one of two teams west of Texas to have won a playoff game.

In the last 25 years they have
  • 6 ten win seasons
  • 2 eleven win seasons
  • 5 twelve win seasons
  • 2 thirteen win seasons
The last 5 coaches to coach at Oregon for more than 1 year(Taggart being the lone exception):
  • Bellotti
    • 2 conference championships
    • 1 losing season in 14 years(and should have been the team to lose to Miami in the Natty) won the Fiesta when the nubs and canes were in Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Kelly
    • 4 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty they should have won.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Helfrich
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Cristobal
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 5th
  • Lanning
    • 1 conference championship
    • 2nd coach in CFB history to beat PSU, Michigan and Ohio St in the same season
    • Is 35-6 with the losses coming to teams whose combined record is 78-9.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 3rd.
Bust out your fingers and toes, that's NINE conference championships in the last 17 years(and 11 AP top 10 final rankings since 2000).

Goly gee, maybe there's something more to it than just who the coach is at Oregon. It's almost as if every coach has success there for some reason.

Oregon is:
They have two losing seasons since 1993. blah blah blah, the list goes on. Michigan has 3 losing seasons since 2008. Penn State has 5 losing seasons since 2000. ND has 5 since 1999. Tennessee has NINE losing seasons since 2005. Auburn has 4 straight losing seasons and 8 since 1998!!!

What data are you basing your absurd statement on, or are you just a dumbass troll?

I do_not agree that Oregon is the 4th best job in the nation. LSU, Texas, UGA, Bama, USC, Notre Dame, and probably Clemson, Michigan, and the big 3 in Florida are all better jobs than Oregon, but the list gets really short after that.
 
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Trogdor said:
Oregon is top 10 in wins among power conferences in the last 30 years or so but they won't be a future top 10(or whatever) program? Every(sans Taggart) Oregon coach since Rich Brooks has taken the team to at least one outright conference championship. Unca Fill is going to leave Oregon a multi billion dollar endowment.

They're one of two teams west of Texas to have won a playoff game.

In the last 25 years they have
  • 6 ten win seasons
  • 2 eleven win seasons
  • 5 twelve win seasons
  • 2 thirteen win seasons
The last 5 coaches to coach at Oregon for more than 1 year(Taggart being the lone exception):
  • Bellotti
    • 2 conference championships
    • 1 losing season in 14 years(and should have been the team to lose to Miami in the Natty) won the Fiesta when the nubs and canes were in Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Kelly
    • 4 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty they should have won.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Helfrich
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Cristobal
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 5th
  • Lanning
    • 1 conference championship
    • 2nd coach in CFB history to beat PSU, Michigan and Ohio St in the same season
    • Is 35-6 with the losses coming to teams whose combined record is 78-9.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 3rd.
Bust out your fingers and toes, that's NINE conference championships in the last 17 years(and 11 AP top 10 final rankings since 2000).

Goly gee, maybe there's something more to it than just who the coach is at Oregon. It's almost as if every coach has success there for some reason.

Oregon is:
They have two losing seasons since 1993. blah blah blah, the list goes on. Michigan has 3 losing seasons since 2008. Penn State has 5 losing seasons since 2000. ND has 5 since 1999. Tennessee has NINE losing seasons since 2005. Auburn has 4 straight losing seasons and 8 since 1998!!!

What data are you basing your absurd statement on, or are you just a dumbass troll?

I do_not agree that Oregon is the 4th best job in the nation. LSU, Texas, UGA, Bama, USC, Notre Dame, and probably Clemson, Michigan, and the big 3 in Florida are all better jobs than Oregon, but the list gets really short after that.
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Well, I’m certainly happy that you edited out calling me an idiot.

Here is a list:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Alabama
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Texas
Oklahoma
Penn State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Washington
Clemson

For Oregon to be in the top ten, you must eliminate seven of the above. Go.
 
Creebuzz said:
Well, I’m certainly happy that you edited out calling me an idiot.

Here is a list:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Alabama
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Texas
Oklahoma
Penn State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Washington
Clemson

For Oregon to be in the top ten, you must eliminate seven of the above. Go.
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In the year of our lord, 2025, I’d eliminate Washington, Auburn, Oklahoma and Penn State and possibly USC in favor of Oregon, but it obviously all depends on what you believe makes the best jobs.

In today’s CFB I don’t put a ton of stock in pre-2000s historical success. Factors for a great CFB HC job:

1. Compensation, including entire football staff comp
2. Institutional buy-in and willingness to win - this includes financial backing for rev share, facilities, etc
3. Third party booster/collective/NIL support
4. Recruiting grounds

Oregon competes with everyone on the list in all categories except #4 but they have built such a major brand that it hasn’t really mattered. I would actually argue that they can recruit the South with just about anyone while recruiting the West, California and the pacific islands better than just about anybody.
 
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Creebuzz said:
Well, I’m certainly happy that you edited out calling me an idiot.

Here is a list:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Alabama
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Texas
Oklahoma
Penn State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Washington
Clemson

For Oregon to be in the top ten, you must eliminate seven of the above. Go.
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Where are you going with this?

Oregon finished 3 last year.

They're in a P2 conference and have the (IIRC) largest athletic endowment for any public school. They're well positioned to be a perennial top 10 contender for the foreseeable future.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
In the year of our lord, 2025, I’d eliminate Washington, Auburn, Oklahoma and Penn State and possibly USC in favor of Oregon
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Ok, and then Oregon would still not be top ten.

I would add that Washington is superior to Oregon in almost every way. Better town, better university, better recruiting footprint. Even with Oregon’s recent success, Washington kids prefer the University of Washington over Oregon. Washington has won a national title, and was in the CFB national championship game recently. It’s certainly bottomed out with a bad hire, but its ceiling has been higher. Oregon should win a national title before claiming a top ten slot.

Look Oregon is a good job, and I respect anyone’s opinion that it’s a top ten program. There is a case to be made. I don’t agree, but it’s not a terrible opinion to have. On the other hand, I do not appreciate being called an idiot for my own opinion.

Final point, the average actuarial lifespan for Phil Knight right now is 4.8 years. How his money will be directed in the future is an unknown, but I do know his wife and children do not share his passion for UO athletics. I think people assume the spigot will flow a certain way forever. I’m less certain of that.
 
Trogdor said:
Oregon is top 10 in wins among power conferences in the last 30 years or so but they won't be a future top 10(or whatever) program? Every(sans Taggart) Oregon coach since Rich Brooks has taken the team to at least one outright conference championship. Unca Fill is going to leave Oregon a multi billion dollar endowment.

They're one of two teams west of Texas to have won a playoff game.

In the last 25 years they have
  • 6 ten win seasons
  • 2 eleven win seasons
  • 5 twelve win seasons
  • 2 thirteen win seasons
The last 5 coaches to coach at Oregon for more than 1 year(Taggart being the lone exception):
  • Bellotti
    • 2 conference championships
    • 1 losing season in 14 years(and should have been the team to lose to Miami in the Natty) won the Fiesta when the nubs and canes were in Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Kelly
    • 4 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty they should have won.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Helfrich
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Cristobal
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 5th
  • Lanning
    • 1 conference championship
    • 2nd coach in CFB history to beat PSU, Michigan and Ohio St in the same season
    • Is 35-6 with the losses coming to teams whose combined record is 78-9.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 3rd.
Bust out your fingers and toes, that's NINE conference championships in the last 17 years(and 11 AP top 10 final rankings since 2000).

Goly gee, maybe there's something more to it than just who the coach is at Oregon. It's almost as if every coach has success there for some reason.

Oregon is:
They have two losing seasons since 1993. blah blah blah, the list goes on. Michigan has 3 losing seasons since 2008. Penn State has 5 losing seasons since 2000. ND has 5 since 1999. Tennessee has NINE losing seasons since 2005. Auburn has 4 straight losing seasons and 8 since 1998!!!

What data are you basing your absurd statement on, or are you just a dumbass troll?

I do_not agree that Oregon is the 4th best job in the nation. LSU, Texas, UGA, Bama, USC, Notre Dame, and probably Clemson, Michigan, and the big 3 in Florida are all better jobs than Oregon, but the list gets really short after that.
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hokiehead said:
Where are you going with this?

Oregon finished 3 last year.

They're in a P2 conference and have the (IIRC) largest athletic endowment for any public school. They're well positioned to be a perennial top 10 contender for the foreseeable future.
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Please link your source on largest athletic endowment. Not what I’ve read.

In a similar vein, I’ve read some valuations of CFB teams, and Oregon has typically been in the 15-20 range right now. How accurate are those valuations? Meh. But again not top ten.
 
Creebuzz said:
Please link your source on largest athletic endowment. Not what I’ve read.

In a similar vein, I’ve read some valuations of CFB teams, and Oregon has typically been in the 15-20 range right now. How accurate are those valuations? Meh. But again not top ten.
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You're right, I was mistaken on their endowment
 
Trogdor said:
Oregon is top 10 in wins among power conferences in the last 30 years or so but they won't be a future top 10(or whatever) program? Every(sans Taggart) Oregon coach since Rich Brooks has taken the team to at least one outright conference championship. Unca Fill is going to leave Oregon a multi billion dollar endowment.

They're one of two teams west of Texas to have won a playoff game.

In the last 25 years they have
  • 6 ten win seasons
  • 2 eleven win seasons
  • 5 twelve win seasons
  • 2 thirteen win seasons
The last 5 coaches to coach at Oregon for more than 1 year(Taggart being the lone exception):
  • Bellotti
    • 2 conference championships
    • 1 losing season in 14 years(and should have been the team to lose to Miami in the Natty) won the Fiesta when the nubs and canes were in Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Kelly
    • 4 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty they should have won.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Helfrich
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl, lost a natty.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 2nd
  • Cristobal
    • 2 conference championships
    • Won a Rose Bowl.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 5th
  • Lanning
    • 1 conference championship
    • 2nd coach in CFB history to beat PSU, Michigan and Ohio St in the same season
    • Is 35-6 with the losses coming to teams whose combined record is 78-9.
    • Highest final AP ranking: 3rd.
Bust out your fingers and toes, that's NINE conference championships in the last 17 years(and 11 AP top 10 final rankings since 2000).

Goly gee, maybe there's something more to it than just who the coach is at Oregon. It's almost as if every coach has success there for some reason.

Oregon is:
They have two losing seasons since 1993. blah blah blah, the list goes on. Michigan has 3 losing seasons since 2008. Penn State has 5 losing seasons since 2000. ND has 5 since 1999. Tennessee has NINE losing seasons since 2005. Auburn has 4 straight losing seasons and 8 since 1998!!!

What data are you basing your absurd statement on, or are you just a dumbass troll?

I do_not agree that Oregon is the 4th best job in the nation. LSU, Texas, UGA, Bama, USC, Notre Dame, and probably Clemson, Michigan, and the big 3 in Florida are all better jobs than Oregon, but the list gets really short after that.
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Oregon is not among that historical group you mention. It may not currently be 4, but it’s top 7 right now IMO.
 
Creebuzz said:
Well, I’m certainly happy that you edited out calling me an idiot.

Here is a list:
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Alabama
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Texas
Oklahoma
Penn State
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
USC
Washington
Clemson

For Oregon to be in the top ten, you must eliminate seven of the above. Go.
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OU, Florida, FSU, UDub, Michigan, Auburn, Mismi, Clemson.
 
hawg1 said:
OU, Florida, FSU, UDub, Michigan, Auburn, Mismi, Clemson.
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Fair enough. There are some controversial picks in the seven you’re leaving out, but I respect the opinion. Hopefully I’ve proved my point about the difficulty of getting into the top ten, and my leaving Oregon out does not warrant calling me an idiot.

Oregon has a great opportunity to win a title now that they can straight up purchase players, but that window is closing soon.
 
Creebuzz said:
Fair enough. There are some controversial picks in the seven you’re leaving out, but I respect the opinion. Hopefully I’ve proved my point about the difficulty of getting into the top ten, and my leaving Oregon out does not warrant calling me an idiot.

Oregon has a great opportunity to win a title now that they can straight up purchase players, but that window is closing soon.
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Thanks for the challenge. I called them top 7 in earlier post. Then I had hard time getting them to 10 on your list. Much harder than I thought.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Not anymore. There’s a ton of pressure to win there with the amount of money they have thrown around at facilities, stadium, Jimbo buyout and recruiting. Maybe not pressure like DeBoer currently had as the guy immediately following Saban, but Elko will be out in a couple years if they don’t make the CFP
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Hell, not ever! aTm has always had big money and high expectations to win and win now. Just because they haven't won, doesn't mean the expectations aren't there. aTm is every bit as high pressured, and has as much donor-involvement if not more so than UTexas. All those jobs have that (Tenn, Clemson etc).
 
Probably the best job in the country in my opinion is USC. Loaded with cash. Bad to awful for a long time now. When Pete Carroll was winning there it was #1 and frankly, today's environment only amplifies all of it's strengths. Best weather hands down year round. Celebrity status. Great recruiting grounds. A good staff would kill it in recruiting nationwide and would be at the level of UGA and with wins, easily becomes the defacto destination for everyone.

And the fact that they haven't won only makes success a big feather in the cap of whoever does it.

The current staff is a yawner with the exception of D'Anton Lynn (DC).

And evidently, they give you a lot of rope as Lincoln Riley enters year 4 having gone:
11-3
8-5
7-6 (and below .500 in the B1G)

Riley is the biggest underachiever at this level who is still employed, and that makes this the #1 job. If he's not fired this year, it's becaue D'Anton Lynn saved it for him and Lynn will leave for a HC job.
 
Creebuzz said:
Ok, and then Oregon would still not be top ten.

I would add that Washington is superior to Oregon in almost every way. Better town, better university, better recruiting footprint. Even with Oregon’s recent success, Washington kids prefer the University of Washington over Oregon. Washington has won a national title, and was in the CFB national championship game recently. It’s certainly bottomed out with a bad hire, but its ceiling has been higher. Oregon should win a national title before claiming a top ten slot.

Look Oregon is a good job, and I respect anyone’s opinion that it’s a top ten program. There is a case to be made. I don’t agree, but it’s not a terrible opinion to have. On the other hand, I do not appreciate being called an idiot for my own opinion.

Final point, the average actuarial lifespan for Phil Knight right now is 4.8 years. How his money will be directed in the future is an unknown, but I do know his wife and children do not share his passion for UO athletics. I think people assume the spigot will flow a certain way forever. I’m less certain of that.
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lol you know the mind of the Knight family now? You're embarrassing yourself. And home state kids prefer the home state program? That's your in depth analysis? Oregon has 6 four star or higher recruits from the state of Washington in the last 4 years. You have zero data to back up your claim, and when presented with facts you resort to lying.
 
lol you know the mind of the Knight family now? You're embarrassing yourself. And home state kids prefer the home state program? That's your in depth analysis? Oregon has 6 four star or higher recruits from the state of Washington in the last 4 years. You have zero data to back up your claim, and when presented with facts you resort to lying.
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Firstly, I stated that I am “less certain” of how the cash will flow after Phil Knight’s death. I do know from published articles that his remaining children do not share his passion for sports (Matthew Knight was a sports fan, but died in a scuba accident years ago). I know this from published articles, with opening lines like this:

Travis Knight never shared his father's love of sports, but his comments over the years showcase some of the same traits that helped his dad turn Nike into a powerhouse.
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There is a big difference between progams that should win a lot and programs that do win a lot.

Florida has everything you would want but other than Urban who has won big there lately. Since Urban they are 176 - 70 which if you consider the number of OOC creampuffs they (and all SEC schools) schedule is less than impressive.

Texas A&M has rabid fans, loads of money, a great recruiting base, and yet since R.C. Slocum retired on 2002 they haven't even won a confrence championship.

We are in a new era of college football and cash is king but somehow some programs can have the money and still not succeed. I would put Texas, Penn State, in that same category plus some others I am sure I am missing at the moment.
 
Creebuzz said:
Firstly, I stated that I am “less certain” of how the cash will flow after Phil Knight’s death. I do know from published articles that his remaining children do not share his passion for sports (Matthew Knight was a sports fan, but died in a scuba accident years ago). I know this from published articles, with opening lines like this:



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You embarrass yourself! Oh wait, not you.
 
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