jobuff
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I hope the PAC12 sticks to their guns on this one. Giving a special deal to DTV will only make DTV more greedy and powerful. Also the other carriers would want the same deal too. Time to put a stop to it.
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Both Directv and Dish expexted to sign on day 1 for sec network
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I hope the PAC12 sticks to their guns on this one. Giving a special deal to DTV will only make DTV more greedy and powerful. Also the other carriers would want the same deal too. Time to put a stop to it.
This. DTV doesn't pick up P-12 until P-12 fans call to cancel and don't accept the "we'll give you sunday ticket for free if you don't" line. As long as P-12 "fans" keep giving DTV their money, DTV will not change.
SECOBuffsFan
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All I know is it makes no sense to live in Pac 12 Country and only have access to the Big Ten Network if I choose not to go to Dish...I think the Pac 12 would be better served to lower their demands a bit and get their product out to as many people as possible
The PAC 12 have given DTV the same demands (blanking on a better word) as Comcast and Dish, this is a consumer issue.
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If its a few pennies, I would agree. We don't know whether the rumors are accurate, but if they are - DirecTV is asking to halve the carriage fee. If true, they can pound sand. Then it would be squarely on PAC fans to force the issue. If their FAQs for carriage fee disputes is up to date - they don't even consider the PAC Networks on the radar right now.
As someone who is happy with my provider - I will be calling them a few times this month from different numbers ready to sign up for everything they offer. Then at the end will make sure what channel the PAC 12 Network is and when they tell me they don't carry it, will kindly tell them they can GTFO and do they know if Dish has it?
If people paid to watch Nobel Prize winners and students getting a great education, the SEC would be on ESPN 8..."The Ocho" :lol: and the PAC12 on primetime network TV.
a lot is in flux, especially when you layer in the att/directv deal.
it has been reported that sunday ticket has to transfer as a condition of the deal. assuming att clears regulatory and can proceed to close the deal for directv, the nfl is in the catbird seat. it knows that it can squirrel the merger so it will seek to obtain a huge price for sunday ticket.
layer in the non-traditonal bidders who may step forward for sunday ticket: google, apple, for example.
the nfl sunday ticket if sold to one of these guys exclusively is going to cost an absolute ****-ton of cash. that means, among other things, that the winner will not want to expend budget on ancillary content like the p12.
here's my net-net: if att/directv happens and they hold onto sunday ticket, it will hurt our chances to see the p12n on that combined company's offering (yes, i know uverse has it now).
it has been reported that sunday ticket has to transfer as a condition of the deal. assuming att clears regulatory and can proceed to close the deal for directv, the nfl is in the catbird seat. it knows that it can squirrel the merger so it will seek to obtain a huge price for sunday ticket.
layer in the non-traditonal bidders who may step forward for sunday ticket: google, apple, for example.
the nfl sunday ticket if sold to one of these guys exclusively is going to cost an absolute ****-ton of cash. that means, among other things, that the winner will not want to expend budget on ancillary content like the p12.
here's my net-net: if att/directv happens and they hold onto sunday ticket, it will hurt our chances to see the p12n on that combined company's offering (yes, i know uverse has it now).
If the Pac-12 wants to get more national visibility and respect then they need to\o get eyeballs on their network, even if it means giving the largest carrier a lower rate. It's not the consumer's responsibility to get P12 Network on DTV, it's the Pac-12's.
You know who made a much bigger mistake than larry scott? Roger Goddell. How could he possibly allow Sunday Ticket to only be on Directv? That is a huge mistake. I want NFL Sunday ticket on Comcast. The NFL will be a complete failure until Roger Goddell lands the NFL package on Comcast. Comcast has 2x the market share as DTV has in Colorado. He really F'ed up. I have my ESPN. I have my P12 network. I just want the NFL package. When will the NFL agree to a lower rate across the board so they can be on all providers. I'm waiting impatiently....
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SD Buff
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Favored nation. You lower the carriage fee for DirecTV you lower it for everyone. You could conceivably lower revenue by adding 20 million subscribers.
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Visibility could be improved further by not having games at freaking 8pm MT+
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Tractor
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i see what you did there
jobuff
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Problem solved. See below. Posted on buffstampede.No go cancel DTV.
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/16/directv-nfl-sunday-ticket-standalone/
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/16/directv-nfl-sunday-ticket-standalone/
Now I have to buy an Apple product? **** that.
This article reminded me to call and double check when my Directv contract expires. I will be free Sept 10th. Comcast and Pac12 network, here I come!
ouch. ouch. SEC is playing for keeps.
Yes.
SD Buff
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DirecTV. $200 vs. potentially over 3 million a year to the CU AD.
This is going to be embarrassing for the PAC. Horrible narrative for a conference that is just as good and deep imo.
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jobuff
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I think it depends on the deal. If they make it a premium channel (sec) where viewers have to order it as a premium channel it will not look that bad because Pac12 can play the card of looking out for the viewer's interest by not increasing their costs.
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Said this many times before, but I really believe the Dodger and Laker networks are hurting the PAC negotiations. DTV is holding out with the Dodgers so far but already gave in to the Lakers. That is a ton off expenses for LA to carry. Adding the in footprint fee for the PAC and they are well over ten bucks a month for three RSNs
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I've seen more dodger games this year by far than my friends who still live in la. It is all related. Huge price paid for the franchise and rights and they need the operators to pay them huge carriage. 2B for the clips tells you where prices are headed.
The big fly in the ointment is the nfl. Directv needs the nfl deal to get the sale to AT&T done, assuming they cns clear regulatory. That cost is impacting all decision making I speculate. NFL is making moves to open up and that is putting more pressure on the negotiations. I believe the p12 deal with directv won't get done until the nfl renewal and AT&T merger shake out.