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Brady's NFL agent starting football league that will let players bypass college

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Supposedly 4 teams will be based around Southern California and players will be paid $50k a year to skip college is they so choose.

The Pac-Pro league, McCaffrey said, will target players with NFL-level talent that require additional seasoning. Among those players who could fit the bill are those who struggle with academics or lost their scholarships for disciplinary reasons, or junior-college standouts not yet ready for the NFL.
 
onealcd said:
Lol at $50k a year in So Cal. Going to have to have this in Florida.
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Arena League paid an average salary of like $80k (some players making less than half that) with a lot of guys playing both ways and a structure that allowed for small rosters (8 on 8 football with 20 man rosters) while also focusing on having teams where there wasn't as much competition for sports entertainment as a Los Angeles... and still went bankrupt.
 
It didn't say how they were going to fund this. Coaches, stadiums, players...

I definitely don't see Californians turning out for semi pro high school football.
 
14er said:
It didn't say how they were going to fund this. Coaches, stadiums, players...

I definitely don't see Californians turning out for semi pro high school football.
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What if Lee and his fellow agents used it solely for the purpose getting a few kids to the NFL? You don't really care if it makes money because the payday comes when they sign an NFL contract. Given the amounts agents make I could see this working as long as they keep costs down and limit it to 18-22 year olds as they plan.
 
From a philosophical standpoint, I completely agree with this league and think it's a great idea. If a kid is 18 years old and good enough to make money playing football, he should be able to, no questions asked. From a practical standpoint, I think it's ridiculous and is going to be a cute experimental thing that will eventually fizzle out after a season or two.
 
I don't think there needs to be a whole different league for these kids, the NFL just needs to expand practice squad roster spots and lower the age requirement.
 
So, when these kids don't make it to the NFL and don't have a college education, where do they go? McDonalds?
 
onealcd said:
I don't think there needs to be a whole different league for these kids, the NFL just needs to expand practice squad roster spots and lower the age requirement.
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I agree with this. The practice squad limits in the NFL seem so strange to me.
 
What kid would turn down a college education for a **** $50k per year?...have to still live w their folks. No idea how this business model is supposed to work...who'd buy tix or watch on TV. Sounds lame to me.
 
dio said:
I agree with this. The practice squad limits in the NFL seem so strange to me.
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NFLPA doesn't want to cut the pie to more players. It's why the roster is only 53 players, the practice squads are small, and they're only paid a pittance for pre-season. On that note, pre-season pay is one of the most misunderstood things about player pay. Those games are part of the NFL season ticket packages and tv contracts. So they do a lot for the overall revenue of the League. The players have a salary cap set based on a percentage of revenues and by tying that cap to only participation in the regular season with the pre-season being from a different bucket they're able to ensure that the guys who actually play in NFL games get a whole lot more.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
What if Lee and his fellow agents used it solely for the purpose getting a few kids to the NFL? You don't really care if it makes money because the payday comes when they sign an NFL contract. Given the amounts agents make I could see this working as long as they keep costs down and limit it to 18-22 year olds as they plan.
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The payday for an agent only comes on the second NFL contract and sponsorship deals. That's a **** ton of effort and costs in hope that you find a kid who doesn't want to/can't go to college, plays three years in your third-tier league, plays well enough and doesn't get injured such that he gets a chance at making a roster in the NFL, makes the roster, plays well enough to make it to a second contract and endorsement deals, and at no point terminates your agent contract to sign with someone else.
 
If this slows down the trend for leaving early comma I'm all for it. Hopefully it will also magnify the need for an education since I'm willing to bet at least 50% of the kids think of it this way will not make a career of football.
 
Bufffan68 said:
What kid would turn down a college education for a **** $50k per year?...have to still live w their folks. No idea how this business model is supposed to work...who'd buy tix or watch on TV. Sounds lame to me.
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I would bet a lot. There is a large segment of the "eligible" population that would enter this position and automatically be making more $$ than their parents. Coming from an environment that may, or may not truly value an education.....that is an appealing proposition to a lot more people than one might want to believe.
 
I would also hope that these kids are going into the league or coming out of the league are in the same draft as the college football players.
 
This is going to go about as well as the
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SuperiorBuff said:
If this slows down the trend for leaving early comma I'm all for it. Hopefully it will also magnify the need for an education since I'm willing to bet at least 50% of the kids think of it this way will not make a career of football.
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It won't change anything, I don't think. What is the market for this league? Mainly kids who can't get into a D1 school academically. The NFL isn't changing it's rule, so you've got three years until you can go either way. At a college, you're fed, you're housed, you have training staffs, and you're likely coached by competent coaches. You only have to do just enough in the classroom to stay eligible. Plus, if you're at a good school, you're playing against top talent most weeks of the year and marketing yourself for the NFL. In a minor league like this, you're getting $50K/year, no housing, and being coached/trained by guys who couldn't get jobs in the NFL or college. The high school kid who thinks he's ready for the pros is still going to select college and leave early unless he can't get in or unless this league pays a lot. The only way this works is if this league is willing to pay "stars" a **** ton of money.
 
wsp4820 said:
The payday for an agent only comes on the second NFL contract and sponsorship deals. That's a **** ton of effort and costs in hope that you find a kid who doesn't want to/can't go to college, plays three years in your third-tier league, plays well enough and doesn't get injured such that he gets a chance at making a roster in the NFL, makes the roster, plays well enough to make it to a second contract and endorsement deals, and at no point terminates your agent contract to sign with someone else.
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I'm confused. Are you suggesting that an NFL agent only makes money on his player's 2nd NFL contract?
 
TSchekler said:
I'm confused. Are you suggesting that an NFL agent only makes money on his player's 2nd NFL contract?
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Not only, but mostly. Actually most of the income comes from off the field where the commissions aren't capped at 2%.
 
TSchekler said:
I'm confused. Are you suggesting that an NFL agent only makes money on his player's 2nd NFL contract?
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He only makes real money on the second contract. He gets paid a percentage of the first contract, but it's pretty low. I think its either 2.5 or maybe 3 percent. With the rookie wage scales, if you represent someone in the top ten picks, you'll make some decent money. It's certainly not life-changing though. For instance, Jared Goff signed a four-year, $27mm contract with the Rams. Assuming his agent gets the 3 percent, that's $810K for four years, or just over $200K per year. Take away taxes and overhead, what are you making off that contract? Not a whole lot. And, that's for the first pick in the draft. It drops off precipitously after that, even in the first round. The 22nd pick last year received a contract with $10mm total value.

It's when the players hit their second contracts and can start making $10mm+ per year and when they start to get endorsement deals (where the agent can negotiate a much higher percentage since he/she isn't forced to use the NFLPA approved agent agreement) where the agent (1) has an ability to help negotiate the deal and (2) makes the money off the player.
 
onealcd said:
Not only, but mostly. Actually most of the income comes from off the field where the commissions aren't capped at 2%.
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Gotcha. Although after using the Google function, I found that the commission cap on playing contracts is 3% and 2% on RFA and Franchise Tag contracts. 3% (if they charge the max) on a modest $5m first year rookie contract is still $150k for the agent. Still a pretty good chunk.
 
TSchekler said:
Gotcha. Although after using the Google function, I found that the commission cap on playing contracts is 3% and 2% on RFA and Franchise Tag contracts. 3% (if they charge the max) on a modest $5m first year rookie contract is still $150k for the agent. Still a pretty good chunk.
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Not really when you consider how much goes into representing a player and that to earn that full fee, you have to represent the player over the full term of the contract (four years).
 
wsp4820 said:
Not really when you consider how much goes into representing a player and that to earn that full fee, you have to represent the player over the full term of the contract (four years).
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From what I read, agents make only what the player actually gets, as long as the agent is still the player's active agent at that time. So if a player has a $5m salary for year one, and the agent is making 3%, as long as that agent is still the active agent for that player throughout the year, he/she makes $150k for the year, pre-tax, for one player. It's not like they have to wait until the contract expires to get paid.

I agree that when you compare that to big money deals for certain players, that's small peanuts, but it's also for one client. Most successful, big $$ agents have 30+ clients.
 
Could be wrong but I think agents actually accept lower than the 3% amount on rookie contracts now since there isn't a lot of work to do with them anymore with the rookie wage scale. A lot have admitted they are somewhat pointless since a lot of players end up switching agents after their first contract anyways.
 
TSchekler said:
From what I read, agents make only what the player actually gets, as long as the agent is still the player's active agent at that time. So if a player has a $5m salary for year one, and the agent is making 3%, as long as that agent is still the active agent for that player throughout the year, he/she makes $150k for the year, pre-tax, for one player. It's not like they have to wait until the contract expires to get paid.

I agree that when you compare that to big money deals for certain players, that's small peanuts, but it's also for one client. Most successful, big $$ agents have 30+ clients.
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Right, but the number of rookies making $5mm per year is about 6 per draft right now. Like I said, by the time you get to the 22nd pick in last year's draft, you're talking about average $2.5mm per season, and under $2mm per season once you leave the first round. Plus, although most of a first round pick's salary is going to be guaranteed, about half of a 2nd or 3rd round pick's salary is non-guaranteed and almost all the salary is non-guaranteed after the 3rd round.

onealcd said:
Could be wrong but I think agents actually accept lower than the 3% amount on rookie contracts now since there isn't a lot of work to do with them anymore with the rookie wage scale. A lot have admitted they are somewhat pointless since a lot of players end up switching agents after their first contract anyways.
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I think this is correct.
 
The NFL would have to subsidize to make this league viable. I think that would be good for them though.
 
DBT said:
So, when these kids don't make it to the NFL and don't have a college education, where do they go? McDonalds?
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they would be lucky to get this opportunity. Most would not qualify for 4 year institutions. Part of the payment structure could be 2 years of tuituion at community college trade/school/truck driving school etc.
 
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