Brady's NFL agent starting football league that will let players bypass college

[Alfred91]

The reason that it's in Socal and not the South is because the South loves college football too much, and this wouldn't be welcomed.

The problem with it being in Socal is that no one will care.

Seems screwed both ways.

 

[SuperiorBuff]

It won't change anything, I don't think. What is the market for this league? Mainly kids who can't get into a D1 school academically. The NFL isn't changing it's rule, so you've got three years until you can go either way. At a college, you're fed, you're housed, you have training staffs, and you're likely coached by competent coaches. You only have to do just enough in the classroom to stay eligible. Plus, if you're at a good school, you're playing against top talent most weeks of the year and marketing yourself for the NFL. In a minor league like this, you're getting $50K/year, no housing, and being coached/trained by guys who couldn't get jobs in the NFL or college. The high school kid who thinks he's ready for the pros is still going to select college and leave early unless he can't get in or unless this league pays a lot. The only way this works is if this league is willing to pay "stars" a **** ton of money.

Then why does minor league baseball exist? Probably about the same money. The best thing would be for the NFL to buy into it and create a high school draft. Copy MLB and let the kids that want a degree play at college.

 

[patebuff]

Agents also have to front all the money for their clients before they even get drafted. There have been many cases where a player has used their agent and switched at the last second to another agent right before the draft. It's a dirty business.

 

[Agent Dave Kujan]

No question this can work. The NFL is the only pro sports league in the world that doesn't have a pro minor league or other pro sports league to draw from. I think that many kids would chose not to mess with college if they didn't have to. They have some very big $ backers that could sustain it during the tough times while they develop a fan base.

 

[MiamiBuffs]

The reason that it's in Socal and not the South is because the South loves college football too much, and this wouldn't be welcomed.

The problem with it being in Socal is that no one will care.

Seems screwed both ways.

With the first 4 teams all in the same market the logistics right off the bat are going to be far cheaper. No airplanes. No hotels.
In the area there are plenty of HS and JC fields that could be rented and probably not for very much money either.
Make sure have some so cal kids on the teams to attract the locals.
All your doing here is developing football skills while waiting for that 3 year NFL rule clock to tick by.

No question this can work. The NFL is the only pro sports league in the world that doesn't have a minor league or other pro sports league to draw from. I think that many kids would chose not to mess with college if they didn't have to. They have some very big $ backers that could sustain it during the tough times while they develop a fan base.

Maybe the goal is to sell it to the NFL down the road. I could see 3 or 4 little farm programs that dont travel out of state working in Cali, Texas, and maybe Florida.

There was a couple of kids I went to school with that had SEC interest but couldnt qualify. One played in the arena league for several years.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

No question this can work. The NFL is the only pro sports league in the world that doesn't have a minor league or other pro sports league to draw from. I think that many kids would chose not to mess with college if they didn't have to. They have some very big $ backers that could sustain it during the tough times while they develop a fan base.

The NFL has the best minor league in all of sports... It's called NCAA football, and if you think this isn't the case, you aren't paying attention. Why would kids choose not to mess with college if they didn't have to? This might be the case if they were guaranteed to be included in the NFL draft and make standard NFL $$ right out of high school, but that is NEVER going to be the case with 99.99999% of players. This is simply another attempt to create a league of second tier players, ala XFL, Semi-Pro, Arena League, etc.

 

[DBT]

they would be lucky to get this opportunity. Most would not qualify for 4 year institutions. Part of the payment structure could be 2 years of tuituion at community college trade/school/truck driving school etc.

We won't need truck drivers because, as we all know, trucks will be driving themselves pretty soon.

 

[MtnBuff]

Then why does minor league baseball exist? Probably about the same money. The best thing would be for the NFL to buy into it and create a high school draft. Copy MLB and let the kids that want a degree play at college.

Minor league baseball is a whole different thing.

Biggest expense in running a team is salaries. In baseball the major league teams pay the salaries of all the players who are under their control as well as the coaches and even the training and medical staffs.

In this case you are going to be looking at a much bigger roster and the NFL won't be paying a cent.

This will also be competing directly with college football, those fans aren't going to switch to see this product.

Minor league baseball is able to draw fans because there is no competition for their fans. They play in the cities that do not have major league teams at a time of year that there is no other sports competition vying for fan dollars.

I just don't see how this is in any way financially viable

 

[Agent Dave Kujan]

The NFL has the best minor league in all of sports... It's called NCAA football, and if you think this isn't the case, you aren't paying attention. Why would kids choose not to mess with college if they didn't have to? This might be the case if they were guaranteed to be included in the NFL draft and make standard NFL $$ right out of high school, but that is NEVER going to be the case with 99.99999% of players. This is simply another attempt to create a league of second tier players, ala XFL, Semi-Pro, Arena League, etc.

I said very clearly "pro" minor league. No doubt CFP is a great minor league for NFL but it is not a pro minor league. Actually.....looking back, I didn't say "pro". So I edited it

 

[Big Jim]

What kid would turn down a college education for a **** $50k per year?...

Most of them. So few D1 players are in college to get their degrees, they are there to play football.

 

[Agent Dave Kujan]

Minor league baseball is a whole different thing.

Biggest expense in running a team is salaries. In baseball the major league teams pay the salaries of all the players who are under their control as well as the coaches and even the training and medical staffs.

In this case you are going to be looking at a much bigger roster and the NFL won't be paying a cent.

This will also be competing directly with college football, those fans aren't going to switch to see this product.

Minor league baseball is able to draw fans because there is no competition for their fans. They play in the cities that do not have major league teams at a time of year that there is no other sports competition vying for fan dollars.

I just don't see how this is in any way financially viable

This is financially viable because the NFL has priced itself out of the middle class's family budget. In the same way the the Colorado mammoth appeals to a demographic that can't afford avalanche tickets, there is plenty of appetite for live football. Also, many NFL coaches complain that the kids coming out of college aren't ready for the NFL.

Armed with the story that the PCFL can develop you better for the NFL, they could sell this league to players easily. Once the players are there, the quality of play goes up and walla! Fans!

I can see a ton of opportunity for sponsorship, camp, and TV dollars on top of the paying fans.

Unencoumbered with the restrictions of educational athletics, this league could absolutely show value to players.

This is a financially viable league for sure.

 

[PAHIBuff]

I would bet a lot. There is a large segment of the "eligible" population that would enter this position and automatically be making more $$ than their parents. Coming from an environment that may, or may not truly value an education.....that is an appealing proposition to a lot more people than one might want to believe.

I agree. For they type of recruit that would be inclined to do this, $50,000/yr will seem like pretty good $$ at the age of 18.

 

[patebuff]

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The biggest question will be how this will work financially, which is really what it comes down. These kids can go straight to a minor league, make a little money and if it doesn't work, they can always go back to School. They would still have their eligibility intact and unless they had some type of major injury, could still get a scholarship. A 25 yr old freshman would be heaven to a lot of coaches, with tons of experience.

 

[DBT]

I've been thinking about something like this for years. My vision would be that it would be a sponsored league for guys for whom college isn't a great option. In my "dream" they could get trade training or something. Maybe a stipend to be used for training or education. The teams would be sponsored by individuals and\or businesses.

 

[Buffnik]

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The biggest question will be how this will work financially, which is really what it comes down. These kids can go straight to a minor league, make a little money and if it doesn't work, they can always go back to School. They would still have their eligibility intact and unless they had some type of major injury, could still get a scholarship. A 25 yr old freshman would be heaven to a lot of coaches, with tons of experience.

How do you figure that someone could play professionally and not compromise his amateur status? If a kid plays in this league, playing in college is off the table.

 

[AeroBuff99]

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. The biggest question will be how this will work financially, which is really what it comes down. These kids can go straight to a minor league, make a little money and if it doesn't work, they can always go back to School. They would still have their eligibility intact and unless they had some type of major injury, could still get a scholarship. A 25 yr old freshman would be heaven to a lot of coaches, with tons of experience.

You are confusing this with former minor league baseball players playing NCAA football. If you get paid to play a sport you are no longer eligible to compete in that sport under the NCAA umbrella. So yes, they could still play baseball, basketball, or run track, but they would be ineligible for football. Also, if you take endorsements for any sport, you are also ineligible for any sport in the NCAA (see Bloom's case).

 

[MiamiBuffs]

You are confusing this with former minor league baseball players playing NCAA football. If you get paid to play a sport you are no longer eligible to compete in that sport under the NCAA umbrella. So yes, they could still play baseball, basketball, or run track, but they would be ineligible for football. Also, if you take endorsements for any sport, you are also ineligible for any sport in the NCAA (see Bloom's case).

Which is stupid.

 

[patebuff]

How do you figure that someone could play professionally and not compromise his amateur status? If a kid plays in this league, playing in college is off the table.

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