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Buffs final regular season record?
- Thread starter Buffnik
- Start date
20-10 regular season; 21-11 after PAC 12 tournament play.
Buffellow85
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I'm going to say 21-9 regular season and 1 win in the PAC tourney.
How many wins do you think we will need to get an at-large bid?
How many wins do you think we will need to get an at-large bid?
Thinking we get 20 regular season wins. This week is critical to getting to the 20. Need to win both on the road.
We sweep at home, beat USC, ASU, Utah, and OSU on the road, at 21-9 with losses to UCLA, AZ, and Oregon. Win one or two in the tourney and we are looking at post season.
The only team I do not think we have a shot with on their court is Arizona. They are going to be a little more than upset about this loss. We could honestly end up anywhere from 17-13 to 23-7 in the regular season.
Reminds me of what we thought about KSU last year.... then we beat them again...... and again :smile2:
http://pac-12.org/portals/7/images/pac-12/tournament/downloads/combined-bracket.pdf
I think that will be of interest here as we approach our half way point in conference play.
If we stay where we are, a 3 seed, we would get a first round bye and play either the 6 seed or the 11 seed. Meaning (giving current conference standings) either Zona or Utah. Being a #2 seed is the best in this scenario I think. Then we pull #7 and #10 being WSU or ASU
I think that will be of interest here as we approach our half way point in conference play.
If we stay where we are, a 3 seed, we would get a first round bye and play either the 6 seed or the 11 seed. Meaning (giving current conference standings) either Zona or Utah. Being a #2 seed is the best in this scenario I think. Then we pull #7 and #10 being WSU or ASU
I have seen on multiple sights we are predicted to lose 4 of our next 11. That puts us at 20-10. Those losses are to UCLA, Zona, And both OR schools. At 20-10 we are probably at least looking at NIT.
The Pac-12 will likely get two bids to the big dance, the winner in the regular season and the tournament winner. If they happen to be the same team, then I think you take the second place team in tourney. That is unless the Pac-12 really starts to separate. The top quarter of the conference needs to really start to separate from the rest and I think we will start to see that soon. Cal Stanford Oregon and CU are already pulling away, we just need to keep winning at home and win the games we should away and maybe pull off an upset along the way.
Deleted member 807
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20 wins? While mathematically possible, it is not a slam dunk by any stretch. Well, it looks more like a SHT dunk attempt.
The odds of beating both Stanford & Cal at home is like last night's free throw percentage.
One of the characteristics of the P12 is that the home team wins more than they lose. The taste of the last roady to the bay area still lingers.
My gut instinct is:
3-1 at home.
2-5 on the road.
C'mon Buffs. Prove me wrong.
The odds of beating both Stanford & Cal at home is like last night's free throw percentage.
One of the characteristics of the P12 is that the home team wins more than they lose. The taste of the last roady to the bay area still lingers.
My gut instinct is:
3-1 at home.
2-5 on the road.
C'mon Buffs. Prove me wrong.
has us ranked currently 97
No it's not. We beat Arizona yesterday with no Roberson for basically 20 minutes and had a bad night from the line, but we found a way to win. Winning on the road is tough in any sport, as Cal and Stanford have found out recently. We will not have another game this year where Roberson scores zero points and we shoot 66% from the line. Book it.
CVilleBuff
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19-11. Until the Buffs prove that they can take care of business on the road, anything more than that seems like a stretch.
MrFrumpylane
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21-9. I find Taddy's team continuing to improve as the season goes on.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
I dunno. Ask me again in a couple of weeks.
Deleted member 807
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CU escaped with a win. They were more lucky than good. The inside game is a problem. So is the 16/26 FT stat.
As an economic major, you'd realize that 62% is the percentage of both the FT shooting and the odds I give CU to beating both Cal and Stanford at the keg. When I say 62% of winning both, I am not predicting that CU loses one. It's a mildly optimistic prediction CU wins both.
By disagreeing with my marginally optimistic outlook, I can't understand what you are arguing.
Do you think CU has a 50% chance of winning both games? Or a 100% chance? Or are we not so far apart?
Deleted member 807
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We're in agreement for the views in bold.
The loss to Wyoming earlier in the season is discounted too much in your 90% number, as is the athletic discrepancy CU holds with the Stanford and Cal rosters.
I don't think it's discounted because just like last season, Tad's teams improve as the year goes on. We had a way below average shooting night last night and still won and Cal just lost to OSU, who is not good on the road as did Stanford. The Pac 12 is just plain bad this year and just because a team is #1 in the conference does not mean they win on the road this year.
Deleted member 807
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What stood out for me is that Perry and Fogg look like future NBA players. Both are big guys. Dinwiddie and Brown, on the other hand, are skilled, but not physically imposing enough to look like NBA material. Roberson just had a bad game. Boyle does a great job getting a team effort out of smallish US and akward Aussie talent.
The Zona inside game was far superior to CU's game in the paint. Arizona's outside shooting is what killed them. With CU's missed FT and 2H dunks, and SHT's sloppy passing in the final minute, it was as if CU was trying to give that game away. While the win does build confidence, CU is still a mediocre team...Boyle's words, not mine. They needed to destroy Arizona last night and claim some road wins to shake that description.
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A lot of the inside play was due to not having Roberson in there. When he was in there, Arizona could not penetrate. CU is not a mediocre team at home with respect to the Pac 12, they are a very good team at home with respect to the Pac 12. I will say that we will not play that bad again at home this year. Arizona is probably the most talented team in the Pac 12 and even though in your words we tried to give that game away and still won. That's the sign of a good team because good teams win even when they can't catch a break.
Deleted member 807
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CU does not have a mediocre record at home. That's for sure. But the offensive stats last night were pretty unimpressive. CU isn't what I'd call a great team. With only 4 home games left, they can't count on the keg to get them to 20. And they still haven't ironed out the FT problem that plagued them at various times (cough CSU cough).
That said, Boyle is doing a great job milking average talent into a formidable opponent on home court. The fans helped push CU over the top last night. CU loses that game on a neutral court.
The FT's have been great since the CSU game and last night was the first night since then that I can remember them being bad. There is no reason we can't go on the road and beat the worst teams in the Pac 12. I get the feeling that you haven't watched many CU basketball games this year.
Deleted member 807
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I applaud your optimism, but I suspect you are drinking koolaid. I suspect you haven't recorded and rewatched the home games that you have attended.
I'm no basketball expert, but I've seen the conference games and have been following the others.
Your fan police schtick is off base. People are allowed to agree to disagree.
I wasn't calling you a bad fan, you just seemed like you haven't watched too many CU home games this year, no way calling you out, I'm done with that.
Deleted member 807
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So I predict 3-1 at home and you jump all over me over the difference between a 62% versus a 90% sweep of Cal and Stanford at home. This is nitpicking.
The Cal game in Berkeley was painful. The Stanford game was a disaster. Getting to twenty means CU has to win three or four of their road games. I'm not saying they should go into hostile territory thinking they'll lose. They should believe they can win on the road.
But, given their recent experience in the Bay Area, the Buffs have done nothing to prove they are capable of winning on the road. They'll earn some respect by winning both games in LA next week.
I'm not counting chickens before they hatch. That's one difference between you and me.