Cal AD Barbour is out

[Buffenuf]

Political choice to diffuse some of the stuff that's come out with James Franklin not exactly putting himself in the running for NOW man of the year.

Here's his competition:

 

[cubuffs85]

Are there any really successful female ADs? I remember the disaster of Barbara Hedges at Washington. Barbour wasn't a whole lot better.

Debbie Yow was widely hated at UMD -- she battled with Gary Williams and didn't exactly leave the AD in good shape financially -- but the Terps had the most successful era during her tenure. Yet, they won men's basketball championship (made another Final Four/in addition to another Final Four/perennial Tourney appearances; in fairness, she didn't hire GW), made a BCS game/bowl games more regularly (an achievement at UMD to say the least but her detractors will say, she wasn't really involved in the hiring and it was Boomer Esiason/Mote, then-UMD Chancellor), and hired a top coach in Brenda Frese and she lead them to the women's basketball championship (although the criticism with her is since Walz went to Louisville, things haven't been the same).

Lisa Love ultimately didn't work out at ASU. Julie Hermann looks like a disaster at Rutgers, but still early. The female AD at Nevada just left. Hardest thing for a female AD probably is football since that brings home the bacon and outside of a few programs, that hire women to key positions on the football operations staff, it's hard to get that experience. The football coach at Nevada even said that the next AD needed to know football, pretty much a shot at her. The woman who just took over UNLV AD was a bowl director, so there's something.

Barbour isn't going to be able to take too much credit at PSU since she didn't hire Franklin and that's pretty much the only visible sport on a national level at PSU. They just started a hockey program, which is big locally, but not too many outside of there/hockey fans really follow it until the Frozen Four. MBB is almost a no-lose deal since not much is expected. There WBB from what I recall is somewhat strong, but not elite.

 

[cubuffs85]

Worked real well for all those 12-16 year old boys raped by their middle school and HS female teachers, eh?

And now those womyn in comfy shoes can act with impunity in the girls' locker rooms.......

Don't think they're going to hire May Kay Letorneau(sp)

 

[cubuffs85]

Lisa Love. I can't think of any more off the top of my head, but there haven't been that many. Penn State is possibly better than a lateral move here as a school, but in the current climate there's going to be a lot on Barbour's shoulders to make the scandal become a thing of the past. How long before people mention PSU athletics and someone doesn't immediately comment on something related to Sandusky? Going to be a long time IMO.

Joyner was never going to be anything more than interim to begin with. I think Barbour stays 3-4 years and then they go out and find someone better. They tried to get the Northwestern AD. Wouldn't be surprised if other high profile ADs, didn't want to touch it since they are still reeling from the scandal.

 

[buffaholic]

Wonder how much of PR this is of having a woman? During the scandal, many feminists out there said that if a woman had been in a prominent position this wouldn't have happened. I imagine this is another short-term move to steer the ship.

Do you have a source you can cite to back this up? While I think you are likely right that a woman in charge diffuses some things, I'm pretty connected to State College and I haven't heard that feminist voice like I do here in BoCo.

 

[cubuffs85]

Do you have a source you can cite to back this up? While I think you are likely right that a woman in charge diffuses some things, I'm pretty connected to State College and I haven't heard that feminist voice like I do here in BoCo.

There were articles at the time about how if a woman would've had a prominent position -- men occupied all the important positions (Spanier, Schultz, Curley, Paterno) -- this wouldn't have happened. I don't necessarily buy it.

If Sandy Barbour were a man, would she have been hired? I think that's a fair question.

 

[HotRack]

Successful women ADs? Can Donna Shalala at The U be considered successful? She was especially good at looking the other way.

 

[cubuffs85]

Successful women ADs? Can Donna Shalala at The U be considered successful? She was especially good at looking the other way.

Where does Betsy Hoffman rank?

 

[Buffnik]

Successful women ADs? Can Donna Shalala at The U be considered successful? She was especially good at looking the other way.

She kept the U from getting at least a USC level penalty. But she's president of the U, not the AD.

 

[HotRack]

Where does Betsy Hoffman rank?

At the top of ****tiest all time school presidents right behind Judith Albino.

She kept the U from getting at least a USC level penalty. But she's president of the U, not the AD.

Oops - my bad, thought she was an AD. Guess going from Slick Willie's admin to an AD job would have been too much of a step down. But at least it provided for good OJT for what she did at the U! :lol:

 

[cubuffs85]

At the top of ****tiest all time school presidents right behind Judith Albino.



Oops - my bad, thought she was an AD. Guess going from Slick Willie's admin to an AD job would have been too much of a step down. But at least it provided for good OJT for what she did at the U! :lol:

I thought you were making a joke there, that's why I responded with Betsy Hoffman. Shalala is definitely a presence on the athletic front though.

 

[sackman]

Successful women ADs? Can Donna Shalala at The U be considered successful? She was especially good at looking the other way.

Im pretty sure Shalala was the President of the University, not AD.

edit: Nik beat me to it.

 

[Buffenuf]

Where does Betsy Hoffman rank?

Oh, Hoffman is rank, all right! Who was that Dr. Pimp Weasel who was her CU Boulder chancellor? He was even more rank!

Any Prez/Chancellor with two working brain cells would have hired a PR specialist within 3 minutes of hearing those accusations and immediately put a "No comment" muzzle on poor, naieve Barnett.

GB's "She was terrible, she was a girl!"....comment damn near killed the program.

 

[HotRack]

Who was that Dr. Pimp Weasel who was her CU Boulder chancellor? He was even more rank!

Richard Byyny