http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-14-greenstein-charlie-weis-nnov14,0,7497934.column
C'mon big man, mediocrity awaits...
C'mon big man, mediocrity awaits...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-14-greenstein-charlie-weis-nnov14,0,7497934.column
C'mon big man, mediocrity awaits...
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Norm
Washington, DC
Reply »|Report Abuse|#118 hrs ago
Wow, I guess Teddy Greenstein really doesn't like Charlie Weis. He's not going to win any coach of the year honors right now, but there wasn't even a half-hearted attempt to objectively judge his tenure at ND.
ND gal
New Orleans, LA
Reply »|Report Abuse|#218 hrs ago
Mr. Greenstein, I'm disgusted by your article. While I'm in the ranks of ND fans not pleased with the performance with the team or the coaching staff as of late, what is the point of an attack such as this? You and Jason Whitlock must have studied journalism together...
Dennis
Wenatchee, WA
Reply »|Report Abuse|#317 hrs ago
Nice hatchet piece. For the record Weis won with Davie's players in 2005 and went 3 and 9 with Willingham's group. What a pathetic article.
nate
Calera, OK
Reply »|Report Abuse|#415 hrs ago
wow.....gess TEXAS is no 2 in wins after this saturday notre dame is but a ECHO of its self heheheheh
tanfan
Okemos, MI
Reply »|Report Abuse|#512 hrs ago
Weiss will never beat a top 25 team, bank on it fatboy
Chris
Wilkes Barre, PA
Reply »|Report Abuse|#612 hrs ago
Great article. Charlie Cheeseburger will soon be gone.
Tom
Louisville, KY
Reply »|Report Abuse|#711 hrs ago
What a hack job. You should be ashamed of yourself for this garbage you call a report. The coach from Pryor's high school was just mad Charlie didn't offer him a car or house like the Suckeyes or the Trojan's would have.You are a hack writer and another hater of the Greatest University of ALL TIME.
GO Irish
Paul
Allegan, MI
Reply »|Report Abuse|#810 hrs ago
What a garbage story. Wow Teddy, you really must be pretty desperate for material if this is all you could come up with. You should go write for Jerry Springer or Howard Stern if this is the only way to get people to read your crap. Funny how you say that alot of former ND players and alumn hate Weis, but are just to afraid to talk. What kind of BS is that? Also, Weis never recruited Pryor as a QB, but as a WR. There were was very little mutual intrest. What next article can we look forward to; Clausen being a primadonna? Please Teddy, get some real material, do some real research, and give us something worth reading.
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John
Columbus, OH
Reply »|Report Abuse|#910 hrs ago
For every Pete Carroll there are ten Charlie Weis' (NFL to NCAA). As a Cincinnati native (see Moeller HS) and Ohio State graduate I plead with Notre Dame to sign Coach Weis to a ten year extension. I wonder what Kyle Rudolph and Michael Floyd are thinking these days...
Kevin
Youngstown, OH
Reply »|Report Abuse|#1010 hrs ago
"Weis is incredibly lucky. In his first season, using Tyrone Willingham's players"
wrong.
more than half the starters were Davie recruits. If you're gonna bash ND, at least get the facts straight
Joe Davola
Joliet, IL
Reply »|Report Abuse|#119 hrs ago
This was nothing more than a poorly researched blog full of anonymous quotes. With articles like this, it's clear why the newspaper industry is in so much trouble and columnists like Greenstein have to take pay cuts. I guess they will do anything to keep there job, including losing all journalistic credibility.
Geetah
AOL
Reply »|Report Abuse|#129 hrs ago
Well done, for a newspaper. I own a business.
jas641
New York, NY
Reply »|Report Abuse|#139 hrs ago
While it is not surprising that the Irish faithful have taken issue with this piece, Mr Greenstein did provide some salient facts. The one which may be most illulminating about the state of Weis' program is that ND's wins this year have come against teams with a combined 12-27 record. To say that his results have been well short of his boasts / claims (wasn't there a quote from him at the time of his arrival suggesting that his teams may be outplayed but never outcoached?) is not something that can be disputed by anyone that is intellectually honest.
Jimmy2times
Reply »|Report Abuse|#149 hrs ago
I hope that foul mouth, embarrassment of a human being stays at ND forever. He is the most overated coach that I know of in my liftime and as long as he is there ND football will continue to be the joke of college football.
Geetah
AOL
Reply »|Report Abuse|#159 hrs ago
Clearly some of the other comments here were not from MY community. Quinn and Samardzija were recruited by Willingham. Is it safe to say they were the best players on Weis' two good teams? MY community is never wrong, but when they are, I will be sure to tell them. I own a business.
ndalumn2004
Chicago, IL
Reply »|Report Abuse|#169 hrs ago
There's always two sides to a man - great effort painting him as a jerk. What about the rest?
I bet I could find someone who thinks you are the biggest scum on the planet- does that mean you are?
Joe
Grand Rapids, MI
Reply »|Report Abuse|#179 hrs ago
You are a gutless punk Greenstein. But don't let the facts get in the way of a great story. Typical hack journalist who has an axe to grind. Would this story been written if ND were 7-2 instead of 5-4? Don't think so. Why would anyone believe you when it comes to ND? Never objective.
Jason
Omaha, NE
Reply »|Report Abuse|#189 hrs ago
I'm not even a Notre Dame fan. A friend sent me this article. A friend that hates Charlie Weis. The article jumps all over the place and is poorly written. You are a hack! How in the world do writers like you actually find employment. No wonder the Tribune is hurting financially. The next time you decide to write a scathing story about anyone please make an attempt to interview the person so we can hear both sides of the story. By the way, I've seen Terrel Pryor in interviews. I realize he is young, but he seems pretty arrogant as well. I'm sure that doesn't matter though.
and
Zionsville, IN
Reply »|Report Abuse|#199 hrs ago
Ty Willingham's only good season (2002) was when he inherited a stacked cupboard of Bob Davie's star-studded recruits like Justin Tuck, Courtney Watson, Vontez Duff, Glenn Earl, Shane Walton, Gerome Sapp, Jeff Faine, and Arnaz Battle.
the whole "well he won with the previous coaches players" is an asinine and stupid argument. you can say that about anybody. i guess by using the transitive property, that means that Urban Meyer won a National Title with Ron Zook's players?
Grant
Chicago, IL
Reply »|Report Abuse|#218 hrs ago
"Notre Dame is a special place, with a mix of football tradition and academic excellence matched perhaps only by Michigan and USC."
USC? Academically excellent? Right...
"Ty Willingham's only good season (2002) was when he inherited a stacked cupboard of Bob Davie's star-studded recruits like Justin Tuck, Courtney Watson, Vontez Duff, Glenn Earl, Shane Walton, Gerome Sapp, Jeff Faine, and Arnaz Battle."
Ummmm ... who? who? who? who? who? who? who? who? and who?![]()
Weiss will never beat a top 25 team, bank on it fatboy
Chris
Wilkes Barre, PA
Reply »|Report Abuse|#612 hrs ago
Great article. Charlie Cheeseburger will soon be gone.
Tom
Louisville, KY
Reply »|Report Abuse|#711 hrs ago
Charlie Cheeseburger? Classic. :lol:
Thomas Bianco
San José, Costa Rica
Reply »|Report Abuse|#268 hrs ago
I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly?
DomerKoolaid
Sacramento, CA
Reply »|Report Abuse|#317 hrs ago
I hope they keep Weis around a long time. It's fun watching their fans come up with new excuses every year. First i
Josh
Mishawaka, IN
Reply »|Report Abuse|#248 hrs ago
The academic "excellence" of Michigan and U$C football players is not on the field as ND. Isn't their grad rates something like 50%? Oh, forget it. I'm tired of defending ND to people who don't have a clue.
"Ty Willingham's only good season (2002) was when he inherited a stacked cupboard of Bob Davie's star-studded recruits like Justin Tuck, Courtney Watson, Vontez Duff, Glenn Earl, Shane Walton, Gerome Sapp, Jeff Faine, and Arnaz Battle."
Ummmm ... who? who? who? who? who? who? who? who? and who?![]()
You know, Justin Tuck, the Pro Bowl DE with the Giants and, ummm, you know, a bunch of other guys.... :lol:
Tuck is just one of the best DEs in the NFL and most likely was one of the main reasons why the Giants beat the Pats in the Super Bowl.
ND is bowl eligibale. What you guys think? Fiesta bowl or Orange bowl?
ND is bowl eligibale. What you guys think? Fiesta bowl or Orange bowl?
National Championship game.