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CFP rankings... finally

jkppkjjkp said:
I'm trying to paint a specific scenario where I leave 13-0 Wisconsin out, but the problem is that if you start making enough 1-loss teams to put in front of them then Wisconsin's clean record looks even better.
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Except that UCF will play a tougher schedule than Wisconsin while winning by more impressive margins. Do you put them in too?
 
Buffnik said:
Would you take them over a 1-loss Notre Dame that has wins at Miami, Stanford and Michigan State along with home wins over USC and NC State? Only loss a nail biter at home against Georgia early in the season?

How about if Miami loses that Notre Dame game but beats VA Tech and then the ACC champ is the winner of an 11-1 matchup between Clemson and Miami?

What about a 12-1 Big 12 Champ in Oklahoma which dominated Ohio State on the road?

What if Alabama or Georgia loses to Auburn but then wins the SEC Championship over the other?

I have trouble taking Wisconsin over any of those teams if those scenarios play out. Also Penn State if it ended up in the same position as Ohio State did last year by not playing in the B10 Championship but being 11-1 with a 1pt loss over an excellent team and a lot of quality wins.
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Wisconsin (should they win the Big Ten, which they will be underdogs in the CCG if they get there) will have 3 big things in their favor:

1. If the committee wanted to take Ohio State or Penn State, you can't take a non-division champ out of a conference and leave out the conference's undefeated champion. There would be a lot of explaining to do.

2. The Big Ten has been regarded as one of the top two conferences, if not the top conference, in the nation all year. You can't shut that conference out of the CFP, especially with their undefeated champion sitting out there. There would be a lot of explaining to do.

3. A much easier explanation than leaving an undefeated Big Ten champion out would be explaining why whichever one loss team got in over another one loss team and ignoring the fact that the undefeated team(s) got in.

Trust me - should Wisconsin run the table (I doubt they will), they will be in.
 
Alfred91 said:
Wisconsin (should they win the Big Ten, which they will be underdogs in the CCG if they get there) will have 3 big things in their favor:

1. If the committee wanted to take Ohio State or Penn State, you can't take a non-division champ out of a conference and leave out the conference's undefeated champion. There would be a lot of explaining to do.

2. The Big Ten has been regarded as one of the top two conferences, if not the top conference, in the nation all year. You can't shut that conference out of the CFP, especially with their undefeated champion sitting out there. There would be a lot of explaining to do.

3. A much easier explanation than leaving an undefeated Big Ten champion out would be explaining why whichever one loss team got in over another one loss team and ignoring the fact that the undefeated team(s) got in.

Trust me - should Wisconsin run the table (I doubt they will), they will be in.
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I agree. But I can see them taking an 11-1 Penn State over a 13-0 Wisconsin as the B1G rep.
 
This does give us something very interesting to think about and argue about that we did not have before a playoff.
 
Buffnik said:
Except that UCF will play a tougher schedule than Wisconsin while winning by more impressive margins. Do you put them in too?
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I disagree with your first sentence.

Top 100 opponents by FPI for UCF = #41 Memphis (+27), #43 USF (Nov 24), #61 SMU (Nov 4), #62 Navy (+10), #68 Maryland (+28), #91 Temple (Nov 18), #100 Cincy (+28)

Top 100 opponents by FPI for Wisc = #24 Michigan (Nov 18), #28 Iowa (Nov 11), #37 N'western (+9), #48 Indiana (Nov 4), #56 Purdue (+8), #60 Minnesota (Nov 25), #63 Nebraska (+21), #68 Maryland (+25), #75 FAU (+17), #89 Utah State (+49), #95 BYU (+44).

The Nebraska, Maryland, FAU, Utah State, BYU group is comparable to UCF's general strength of schedule and Wisconsin beat those 5 teams by an average of 31.2 points, and all of them by at least 17 points.

I guess you could say UCF beating Maryland in College Park by 28 compared to Wisconsin beating them by 25 at Camp Randall shows that UCF is about 7-10 points better than Wisconsin by the transitive property of college football, and that the most impressive win so far by either team is the 27 point win over Memphis for UCF. That would not be close to enough to trump a win over Ohio State or Penn State though.
 
Here's what I think Tuesday looks like
1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Miami
4. Notre Dame

5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma (I can't put OSU higher than them because of the head to head)
7. Ohio State
8. TCU
9 Clemson
10. Oklahoma State
11. Iowa State
12. Washington
13. Penn State .
 
TSchekler said:
Don’t care about schedule. If you’re an undefeated Power 5 team after 9 weeks, you deserve to be in the CFP.

1. Bama
2. UGA
3. Miami
4. Wisconsin
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If they go undefeated to end the season, then they sure as hell deserve it, as they will have to of at least beat Penn State/Ohio State. However, at this point in time, they do not deserve a top 4.
 
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