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BlackNGold
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Just one caveat. It is a rumor I heard from someone who would know, he indicated that if Walker left that BC was a guy that RN would consider. There was nothing about Cabral even being interested in such a move.
In the past, Cabral has been loyal to CU to a fault. He did work for RN for 4 years so he has a relationship with him but I have no idea if it was good or bad.
unbiasedtruth
Well-Known Member
well glad clemson hired their interim HC and now Miss. State has hired Fllorida's OC.
unbiasedtruth
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oh great just when I thought we were over the signs, airplanes with banners and mack's whining and crying about how unfair the college football world is to Texas.....
but... but... we're Texas.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Given the choice between Patterson & Muschamp I think I'd take Muschamp. The biggest reason being he's been in some high profile kids' living rooms and has the connections to the highly recruited athletes. He's familiar with the culture at Auburn, but has also been part of the success at UT.
stampy
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I'd go with Patterson, he is a proven winner as a HC. You could make the same argument you made for Muschamp for Chizick, and if I were ISU I'd be missing McCarney right about now.
EDIT: I'd take Tuberville over either guy
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Auburn > ISU in so many ways. If Chizik had waited a year or two, he might be the one looking at the Auburn/Syracuse/Washington/Tennessee job. He jumped ship too soon.
I distinctly remember Boulder Buff saying that when Chizik took the ISU job.
stampy
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The problem with Chizik (and probably Muschamp) is that he is a DC and not an OC. Chizik's Auburn D was probably the most dominant D in the country over the past 5 or 6 yrs, and UT won a MNC with him managing the D, but he got no better offer than ISU. When would his name be hotter than 1yr removed from that great Auburn D and immediately after the UT championship?
Other than Pelini, who had a jump on the NU job, how many DC's have gotten BCS HC jobs vs. OC's? People just get more excited about a prolific offensive coach than a D guy.
Other than Pelini, who had a jump on the NU job, how many DC's have gotten BCS HC jobs vs. OC's? People just get more excited about a prolific offensive coach than a D guy.
I'm pretty sure Mac was the DC at Michigan.
unbiasedtruth
Well-Known Member
hmmmm.... Bob Stoops comes to mind from being the Gater's DC under Spurrier and who won a MNC with him as DC before he became HC at Oklahoma.....
stampy
Well-Known Member
I said how many vs. OCs, not that there haven't ever been any...and I was kinda thinking more along the lines of this millenium...
The DP said that Chizick is a candidate for Auburn, so they must remember him after all.
unbiasedtruth
Well-Known Member
ok now that I am awake, and had coffee, not awake and had alcohol, I was thinking about my above post and your post. Looking at just OU only Mike Stoops has been hired away as a HC from the defensive side of the ball. There has been 3 OCs, Leach, Magino and Chuck Long (no longer a HC) that were hired as HCs, along with Kevin Sumlin (positional coach on offense, TE & WR I believe). Thats a 4-1 ratio from just this one school. I know this probably the norm but I do think it gives support to what you are saying.... and even though I really like OU's offense and what they have accomplished this year, I am still a fan of the OU's defense, always have been, and the pain they bring when they play lights out..... best game I have been to in years was this TTech game.....
stampy
Well-Known Member
Check out the background of Big 12 HCs;
CU Hawkins, O
MU Pinkel, O
KU Mangino O
Tech, Leach O
UT Brown O
aTm Sherman, O
Baylor Briles, O
OSU Gundy, O
KSU Snyder O (Prince O)
NU Pelini D
OU Stoops D
ISU Chizik D
I bet if you looked at other conferences the ratio would be similiar. If my wife wasn't insisting I go clean the garage I would look them up.:sad1:
CU Hawkins, O
MU Pinkel, O
KU Mangino O
Tech, Leach O
UT Brown O
aTm Sherman, O
Baylor Briles, O
OSU Gundy, O
KSU Snyder O (Prince O)
NU Pelini D
OU Stoops D
ISU Chizik D
I bet if you looked at other conferences the ratio would be similiar. If my wife wasn't insisting I go clean the garage I would look them up.:sad1:
unbiasedtruth
Well-Known Member
3-1 pretty darn close to what Oklahoma has done as far as HC that were once assistansts under Bob Stoops....
BIGREDIOWAN
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Can't believe Auburn hired Chizik? WTF are they thinking....................he's done real well at ISUcks. :brick:I will say though he IS swimming against the current there as that's a hard school to be a head coach at.
:huh::huh::huh:
The Auburn athletic department FTL!
I guess there is a new job open now. Who in their right mind would take the ISU job? Maybe the Northern Iowa head coach?
This is all fricken nuts and with all of these openings and hiring of retreads there still are only 4 African American coaches in D1? Something is out of whack.
87toInfinity
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Not enough Athletic Departments are using the "Black" Search Engine yet...
I hate to say this, but I think a big part of the reason for that is that most of the black coaches that have been hired turned out to be horrible. Willingham, Dickerson, Dorrell, Simmons. The book is still out on Randy Shannon, too. I'm not saying that they are bad coaches because they're black. But they ARE bad coaches who just happen to be black. It would be hard to be an AD now, with a black candidate for your head coach position, and the thoughts of "Oh crap, is this the next Ty Willingham?" running through your head.
Probably the best hope for the future of black coaches is Turner Gill. He'll get his chance soon enough. If he does well, it will open the doors for others, like John Embree. Unfortunately, I think it's going to take success by a black coach at a major university to really tear down that barrier.
The Auburn athletic department FTL!
I guess there is a new job open now. Who in their right mind would take the ISU job? Maybe the Northern Iowa head coach?
Yea, the ISU football program has to be one of the most meaningless BCS football programs over the past 30 years or so. Even the programs that are bad now have had flashes of greatness and/or been in BCS games or New Year's Day bowls over that time period.
Seems like a lateral move to me, although the location is certainly a lot nicer.
Chizik to Auburn was one move that was surprising. Not that Chizik would flee the coaching graveyard that is ISU, but that Auburn would pick him as the man. 5-19, evne at ISU is underwhelming. Maybe Auburn is suffering from the niblet curse, (difficulty in finding a replacement for a solid coach fired amidst unreasonable expectations).
ISU struck gold in getting a name like Chizik, even if he wasn't a success in his first two years. Why they fired McCarney, the only guy to ever win there with any regularity is a mystery to me. My guess is they will have a huge uphill battle to fill that job....
Hoke to SDSU is a head scratcher. Ball St. and SDSU are roughly equal in the football futility category, although SD is a much better place to coach up a football team no one is going to watch....
ISU struck gold in getting a name like Chizik, even if he wasn't a success in his first two years. Why they fired McCarney, the only guy to ever win there with any regularity is a mystery to me. My guess is they will have a huge uphill battle to fill that job....
Hoke to SDSU is a head scratcher. Ball St. and SDSU are roughly equal in the football futility category, although SD is a much better place to coach up a football team no one is going to watch....
Ball St had a really good year this year. I suppose it could be a scenario where the coach looked at who he had coming back and decided the time was right for a change.