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The Alabaster Yak said:
I guess I don’t understand why the ambiguity of a National CFB Champion is appealing.
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Yes. So satisfying that CU and GT didn't settle it on the field. Or the joy of that year BYU ran the WAC, played 1 ranked team, and due to the conference's weak bowl tie-ins had to beat a 6-5 Michigan to be named national champion. Etc. Relying on polls to name a #1 after all the bowls was lame.
 
If all you want is to see the best football players on the best teams play each other you should watch the NFL. The appeal of college was tied to quirky other things-tradition, ties between players and the rest of the university, quirky scheduling, regionality, ambiguity in the championship, etc.
The giant playoff is more of another symptom of the end off all that than a cause, but it is another step towards the NFL Lite.
 
Townie said:
If all you want is to see the best football players on the best teams play each other you should watch the NFL. The appeal of college was tied to quirky other things-tradition, ties between players and the rest of the university, quirky scheduling, regionality, ambiguity in the championship, etc.
The giant playoff is more of another symptom of the end off all that than a cause, but it is another step towards the NFL Lite.
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Or maybe we want to see quirky other things - tradition, ties between players and the rest of the university, quirky scheduling, and regionality, but also want to see the best players and teams play each other in more meaningful games late in the season.

I’m with you on the shiftiness of realignment removing the regionality aspect and taking away some rivalries and what not, but the expanded playoff has nothing to do with that or the rest of what you mentioned.

It’s literally the same setup as before except the NY6 bowl games actually mean something
 
Townie said:
If all you want is to see the best football players on the best teams play each other you should watch the NFL. The appeal of college was tied to quirky other things-tradition, ties between players and the rest of the university, quirky scheduling, regionality, ambiguity in the championship, etc.
The giant playoff is more of another symptom of the end off all that than a cause, but it is another step towards the NFL Lite.
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That's the main thing I feel like I already lost. Small, regional conferences were more engaging for me with opposing fan interactions, traditions, familiarity and the pageantry of the game. Inter-conference games and bowls were extra fun because it settled very open questions of who was playing the better brand of football and those games were events.

But I like the loss of regionality when it's not my region. Florida vs Texas interests me a lot more than Florida-South Carolina or Texas-Kansas. Losing CU vs Nebraska, Oklahoma and Missouri every year is not improved with a conference game vs UCF, WVU or Cincy which might draw a broader national audience.
 
Buffnik said:
That's the main thing I feel like I already lost. Small, regional conferences were more engaging for me with opposing fan interactions, traditions, familiarity and the pageantry of the game. Inter-conference games and bowls were extra fun because it settled very open questions of who was playing the better brand of football and those games were events.

But I like the loss of regionality when it's not my region. Florida vs Texas interests me a lot more than Florida-South Carolina or Texas-Kansas. Losing CU vs Nebraska, Oklahoma and Missouri every year is not improved with a conference game vs UCF, WVU or Cincy which might draw a broader national audience.
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My issue with CU fans here complaining about the regionality and pageantry of the good old days is that most of them here don’t want to even associate with the people, fans and universities from Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, and Texas, even though our entire history and all of our success is with that region, and they think we “fit better” with the Western universities and teams that we actually have no success or history with who and mostly view CU as a doormat and joke that contributed nothing to the conference/region.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
My issue with CU fans here complaining about the regionality and pageantry of the good old days is that most of them here don’t want to even associate with the people, fans and universities from Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, and Texas, even though our entire history and all of our success is with that region, and they think we “fit better” with the Western universities and teams that we actually have no success or history with who and mostly view CU as a doormat and joke that contributed nothing to the conference/region.
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I thought university values, prestige, faculty and student population was much more aligned with the Pac-12.

From an athletics perspective, give me the original Big 8 plus UT, aTm, UA, ASU, Utah and BYU. That would pretty much be my ideal 14-team conference. FWIW, that's also 7 AAU member peers we'd be with.
 
this is a thought from way out in left field, but listening to the radio today and hearing ad for ticket resale site... i wonder if the secondary market going digital (slash verifiable) is really separating the top tier from the middle? it's probably good for us with CP, but with the digital access why would you pay an extra cent for a low interest game? and how could any normal fan afford a ticket to a marquee game? i grew up in boulder but live in tucson now, and will do everything possible to get tix to next year's CU game, but if i dont get a face value ticket it will likely be a huge cost.

i tried to get tickets to ASU in phoenix this year and they were crazy expensive through legit resellers. fewer chances to get scammed but huge price increases for fans of a high demand program like we might (probably will) be.

big picture, you can get a $10 ticket to a nothing game but might pay $300 for the same ticket to a big game... and easily four figures for a good ticket. rich get richer and the fans without money sell their tix or cannot buy one. i guess it makes our TV numbers bigger. i don't know if this is good or bad, but it definitely has changed the face of in-person fans.
 
Townie said:
If all you want is to see the best football players on the best teams play each other you should watch the NFL. The appeal of college was tied to quirky other things-tradition, ties between players and the rest of the university, quirky scheduling, regionality, ambiguity in the championship, etc.
The giant playoff is more of another symptom of the end off all that than a cause, but it is another step towards the NFL Lite.
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Exactly.
 
bldrbbott said:
this is a thought from way out in left field, but listening to the radio today and hearing ad for ticket resale site... i wonder if the secondary market going digital (slash verifiable) is really separating the top tier from the middle? it's probably good for us with CP, but with the digital access why would you pay an extra cent for a low interest game? and how could any normal fan afford a ticket to a marquee game? i grew up in boulder but live in tucson now, and will do everything possible to get tix to next year's CU game, but if i dont get a face value ticket it will likely be a huge cost.

i tried to get tickets to ASU in phoenix this year and they were crazy expensive through legit resellers. fewer chances to get scammed but huge price increases for fans of a high demand program like we might (probably will) be.

big picture, you can get a $10 ticket to a nothing game but might pay $300 for the same ticket to a big game... and easily four figures for a good ticket. rich get richer and the fans without money sell their tix or cannot buy one. i guess it makes our TV numbers bigger. i don't know if this is good or bad, but it definitely has changed the face of in-person fans.
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Yes, ticket secondary sales going electronic has changed the resale market significantly.

Few people are trying to buy or sell outside the venues anymore. Used to be able to make a simple cash for ticket transaction and be done with it. Now, to conduct a sale like that requires exchanging personal information to transfer the ticket, or hanging out and walking in together. Tons of people would rather just hit the "sell" button on their apps vs having that engagement with a stranger.

Most electronic sales sites don't offer a way to negotiate. Take the asking price or walk away.

There's really no such thing as a $10 resale ticket anymore. Sellers asking price may drop to $10 but after fees you're paying $25.

I do think you could've done better at ASU though. A game that is just barely sold out, or one close-but-not-quite sold out, typically has the a favorable buyer's resale market.
 
hokiehead said:
Yes, ticket secondary sales going electronic has changed the resale market significantly.

Few people are trying to buy or sell outside the venues anymore. Used to be able to make a simple cash for ticket transaction and be done with it. Now, to conduct a sale like that requires exchanging personal information to transfer the ticket, or hanging out and walking in together. Tons of people would rather just hit the "sell" button on their apps vs having that engagement with a stranger.

Most electronic sales sites don't offer a way to negotiate. Take the asking price or walk away.

There's really no such thing as a $10 resale ticket anymore. Sellers asking price may drop to $10 but after fees you're paying $25.

I do think you could've done better at ASU though. A game that is just barely sold out, or one close-but-not-quite sold out, typically has the a favorable buyer's resale market.
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There's a guy I work with who has gone to a few games in the region this year and he waits until the game is about to start or just starting and he's been getting excellent seats in the $10-$20 range.

I never tried this but it makes sense that the prices would drastically fall once the game is about to kick off.
 
I enjoyed the ambiguity of the polls, you could have a couple of different schools argue about who was best all season.

Much better in my mind than seeing somebody go undefeated then have an off day or a key injury and lose to a 2 loss team that didn't even win their league or division in a playoff to get the trophy that says they were hottest at the end.

And the big bowl games each mattered. Being a Rose bowl champ, or an Orange Bowl, or Cotton Bowl champ mattered.

As to the NFL I do watch it, not as closely as I do college but I appreciate the level of talent.

To me though it is too cookie cutter. Every team runs close to the same offense and close to the same defense. You get some variation based on who they have at QB and maybe if they have a top end RB but mostly they all run the same plays out of the same formations.

The NFL is also to a large extent a QB determined league. No top end QB, very little chance of being a contender. Teams like Minnesota which is a pretty decent team all around just saw their season effectively end with Cousin's knee injury.

You do see some lousy teams that not even a top QB can save but even a very good team without a top QB is in trouble.

College you see a much wider variety of different offensive styles, defensive styles, and the interesting outcomes when various styles collide.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
There's a guy I work with who has gone to a few games in the region this year and he waits until the game is about to start or just starting and he's been getting excellent seats in the $10-$20 range.

I never tried this but it makes sense that the prices would drastically fall once the game is about to kick off.
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There are fewer but there still always seems to be some people with a last minute ticket to get rid of.

The person they were going to see the game with got sick or cancelled at the last minute and they would rather get $20 for it than just let it go wasted.
 
PAC MAN said:
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I finally watched the Documentary and came away feeling that he had really learned nothing. He is doing beer shots with his buds in his back yard, and his sister saying he is not ready to do anything with his life. Man, it has been a decade since you were at A&M - time to grow up.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
The “same thread Miami” is a rare occurrence, only beaten by the “same thread, three posts prior Miami”
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Vince Vaughn GIF
 
I really didn’t think Riley was going to get rid of him because he stuck with him the last two years. Thought it would be his ultimate downfall
 
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