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College Football Realignment

Creebuzz said:
The deficit isn’t an actual debt. The $147 million figure is a projection of the sum total of future operating deficits to 2031 assuming revenue streams are generally static and after the House settlement player payment system kicks in.

Yes, they have to address by ceasing expensive capital projects like the renovation to the Hilton Center. However, I view the coverage on this as a warning shot over the bow for fans and other stakeholders. In other words, dig deeper in your wallets or else.
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Projecting the revenue streams is an issue.

Iowa is very agriculture dependent, their US ranking as reported by the USDA.

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If you look at the number of areas that they are highly ranked in export value shows directly how vulnerable they are to interuptions in agricultural exports. This with a President dead set on creating tariff wars can't make them feel comfortable.

Add to that the drive to deport or chase away a significant amount of their farm labor and you have a state that has reason to worry about future economic health.
 
InTheBuff said:
sports.yahoo.com

College Football Playoff: Big Ten floats 24-plus-team format

Big Ten executives are socializing 24 and 28-team College Football Playoff brackets that feature as many as seven automatic qualifiers each for the Big Ten and SEC.
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This would be 🤪 crazy
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Why even bother with a regular season? You would have teams in the playoffs with 5 losses.

One of the reasons I always preferred college football over the NFL was having every regular season game meaning something. Now it is getting more and more like the NFL. Don't have to be the best all year as long as you are good enough to get into the playoff. They a combination of who is hottest, gets a favorable bracket, and some luck determines who wins it all. You can have a team go undefeated all year and lose a close playoff game but the "champion" is a team that lost 4 games but got hot at the end and caught a couple playoff opponents that lost key players to injuries plus a questionable officials call or two.
 
MtnBuff said:
Why even bother with a regular season? You would have teams in the playoffs with 5 losses.

One of the reasons I always preferred college football over the NFL was having every regular season game meaning something. Now it is getting more and more like the NFL. Don't have to be the best all year as long as you are good enough to get into the playoff. They a combination of who is hottest, gets a favorable bracket, and some luck determines who wins it all. You can have a team go undefeated all year and lose a close playoff game but the "champion" is a team that lost 4 games but got hot at the end and caught a couple playoff opponents that lost key players to injuries plus a questionable officials call or two.
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I mean, you just described March Madness.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
You’re holding onto what used to be and hasn’t been for close to a decade. Regular season games are still fun and meaningful because there are only 12 of them.
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No, I'm "holding on" to what exists now. I never thought the bowl system or the BCS was the best way to determine a national champ. At the same time, a playoff strips college football of some of its special sauce if it gets too big. If I were making all the rules, I would have capped it at 8. 12 was cool the way it was done this last year. 16 feels like too many. 24 is definitely too many.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
You’re holding onto what used to be and hasn’t been for close to a decade. Regular season games are still fun and meaningful because there are only 12 of them.
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CFB needs to not lose the things that make it unique and a very meaningful regular season is one of those things. That didn't really change until last year with the 12-team playoff. Even in the 4-team era it only changed ever so slightly as no 2-loss team ever got into the field. Don't make so many changes where the sport becomes unrecognizable.

Having said that the CFP is not going backwards to 4 teams, I get that. Having first round games on campus is awesome. 16 teams is an inevitability but anything beyond that and we're really starting to water things down.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
No, I'm "holding on" to what exists now. I never thought the bowl system or the BCS was the best way to determine a national champ. At the same time, a playoff strips college football of some of its special sauce if it gets too big. If I were making all the rules, I would have capped it at 8. 12 was cool the way it was done this last year. 16 feels like too many. 24 is definitely too many.
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Agreed about 8 but the problem there was the conferences couldn't agree about the balance between the number of auto bids and at-large spots. Therefore going to 12 satisfied the bigger conferences and also the G5 with the 5 auto bids but with still plenty of room for at-large bids. Now if the committee could just figure out that who you played and who you beat actually matters...
 
CarolinaBuff said:
CFB needs to not lose the things that make it unique and a very meaningful regular season is one of those things. That didn't really change until last year with the 12-team playoff. Even in the 4-team era it only changed ever so slightly as no 2-loss team ever got into the field. Don't make so many changes where the sport becomes unrecognizable.

Having said that the CFP is not going backwards to 4 teams, I get that. Having first round games on campus is awesome. 16 teams is an inevitability but anything beyond that and we're really starting to water things down.
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Not playoff related, but the other thing that makes college football special is regional rivals (which, I think, help make regular season games meaningful). Im hopeful that when the next shakeup happens, we’ll reinstate the regionality aspect.
 
SpacemanSpiff said:
Not playoff related, but the other thing that makes college football special is regional rivals (which, I think, help make regular season games meaningful). Im hopeful that when the next shakeup happens, we’ll reinstate the regionality aspect.
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Absolutely. We've seen it first hand with the CU-NU rivalry having gone away. Others too, Pitt-PSU, Pitt-WV (although they are playing in most years for the near future), OU-OSU, etc. Now one good thing about conference expansion is that it has brought back some traditional rivalries, most notably Texas-Texas A&M and also Texas-Arkansas. And credit to Washington and Oregon for continuing their respective in-state rivalries after going to the B1G.

Hopefully some of these intrastate rivalries like Clemson-USC, Florida-FSU and UGA-GT will continue if and when there's a shakeup in the ACC.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
No, I'm "holding on" to what exists now. I never thought the bowl system or the BCS was the best way to determine a national champ. At the same time, a playoff strips college football of some of its special sauce if it gets too big. If I were making all the rules, I would have capped it at 8. 12 was cool the way it was done this last year. 16 feels like too many. 24 is definitely too many.
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I hate 12. I’m not a fan of byes for top seeds. I say either go down to 8 or up to 16. 32 would just be silly. 24 or 28 would be silly plus there would be byes.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
CFB needs to not lose the things that make it unique and a very meaningful regular season is one of those things. That didn't really change until last year with the 12-team playoff. Even in the 4-team era it only changed ever so slightly as no 2-loss team ever got into the field. Don't make so many changes where the sport becomes unrecognizable.

Having said that the CFP is not going backwards to 4 teams, I get that. Having first round games on campus is awesome. 16 teams is an inevitability but anything beyond that and we're really starting to water things down.
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I think if you asked someone from the year 2000 to look at 2025 college football, they would say it’s largely unrecognizable.

I think the regular season being super relevant right now is mostly a myth. I guess the way I look at it is if CU ended the season at 9-3 ranked 20th in the country, I’d rather see them play the 5th ranked team in the country in round one of a 28 team tournament than go play some random program in the Alamo Bowl.
 
Tatanka™ said:
I hate 12. I’m not a fan of byes for top seeds. I say either go down to 8 or up to 16. 32 would just be silly. 24 or 28 would be silly plus there would be byes.
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28 would be top 4 getting byes which I think would be reasonable and a way to keep the top 10ish programs engaged all year and then seeding beyond that would keep regular season for everyone else relevant
 
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The Alabaster Yak said:
I think if you asked someone from the year 2000 to look at 2025 college football, they would say it’s largely unrecognizable.

I think the regular season being super relevant right now is mostly a myth. I guess the way I look at it is if CU ended the season at 9-3 ranked 20th in the country, I’d rather see them play the 5th ranked team in the country in round one of a 28 team tournament than go play some random program in the Alamo Bowl.
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No San Antonio Tex Mex for you!
 
If we eliminate conference championship games, I'm all in on 32. Starting with 24-28 is fine with me.

Maybe 8 guaranteed for the SEC/B1G, 6 for the ACC/B12, and then 4 wild cards.

Start it the first week of December and it runs for a month.
 
16 team playoffs would totally screw the Big12. Get to 24 or 28 and deserving schools will make it in.
Keep in mind that we are expecting the SEC and Big10 to both expand which will then cause the Big12 to expand. The larger playoffs must happen without a doubt.
 
Why not just do 64 or even 128, let everybody in.

Some people love the NFL model, fine what the NFL. You can make an argument that 4 teams or even 6-7 teams had a good enough season that they deserve an argument that they are the best team in college football but past that no, you are now into second (third) chance territory.

If a team is 3rd best in their own conference there is absolutely no way they deserve to be in contention for the championship. As it stands we already have some regular season games that we know it doesn't matter who wins because both teams have a clear path to the playoff. No way should a team losing 3-4 games be in that position.

I get basketball even though I also think 68 is far too large. College basketball has always been determined by a playoff and with far more teams and games it makes some sense.

Part of what makes college football special is that it isn't a lower level version of the NFL, don't try to make it one.

As to a couple of the post above I also love the regional rivalries, the traditional rivalries. Those games mean even more when they are probable elimination games for the teams involved. It makes for special memories for the fans when a team that isn't having a great year or great stretch manages to step up and ruin the season of their long time deeply settled rivals.
 
MtnBuff said:
Why not just do 64 or even 128, let everybody in.

Some people love the NFL model, fine what the NFL. You can make an argument that 4 teams or even 6-7 teams had a good enough season that they deserve an argument that they are the best team in college football but past that no, you are now into second (third) chance territory.

If a team is 3rd best in their own conference there is absolutely no way they deserve to be in contention for the championship. As it stands we already have some regular season games that we know it doesn't matter who wins because both teams have a clear path to the playoff. No way should a team losing 3-4 games be in that position.

I get basketball even though I also think 68 is far too large. College basketball has always been determined by a playoff and with far more teams and games it makes some sense.

Part of what makes college football special is that it isn't a lower level version of the NFL, don't try to make it one.

As to a couple of the post above I also love the regional rivalries, the traditional rivalries. Those games mean even more when they are probable elimination games for the teams involved. It makes for special memories for the fans when a team that isn't having a great year or great stretch manages to step up and ruin the season of their long time deeply settled rivals.
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Conference consolidation has changed things with the level of competition in conferences. NIL and Portal have changed things with the distribution of talent. There are 3 loss teams that are very good and very capable of beating 1 or 0 loss teams. The sport has changed dramatically and people still want a postseason like it’s a decade ago.

Also, maybe it’s not about finding out who the absolute best team is and maybe it’s about entertainment and having something for more programs and fans to look forward to
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Conference consolidation has changed things with the level of competition in conferences. NIL and Portal have changed things with the distribution of talent. There are 3 loss teams that are very good and very capable of beating 1 or 0 loss teams. The sport has changed dramatically and people still want a postseason like it’s a decade ago.

Also, maybe it’s not about finding out who the absolute best team is and maybe it’s about entertainment and having something for more programs and fans to look forward to
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Your preferences have always leaned to playoffs, fine, your choice. Simply stating that for myself and a lot of college fans the changes that have happened and will continue to happen have not made the game more enjoyable.

You have a right to your opinion and I doubt I or anyone else would change it but I do believe that the changes happening are not for the better. And I still don't see a 3 loss team as being the best team that year.
 
MtnBuff said:
Your preferences have always leaned to playoffs, fine, your choice. Simply stating that for myself and a lot of college fans the changes that have happened and will continue to happen have not made the game more enjoyable.

You have a right to your opinion and I doubt I or anyone else would change it but I do believe that the changes happening are not for the better. And I still don't see a 3 loss team as being the best team that year.
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But you’re acting like things might go back to the way they were, when they’re not. The sport has changed, ratings are higher than ever, it’s big business and there’s more parody now than ever before. Trying to keep the postseason the same as it was during an entirely different era of the sport is dumb.
 
Having at 24 or 28 team playoff structure would certainly increase fan bases interest in the season. Remember how close the Big12 was last year? CU, BYU, Baylor and Texas Tech and TCU would all have been on pins and needles the last few weeks of the regular season.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
But you’re acting like things might go back to the way they were, when they’re not. The sport has changed, ratings are higher than ever, it’s big business and there’s more parody now than ever before. Trying to keep the postseason the same as it was during an entirely different era of the sport is dumb.
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Not so much through I wish they would roll some back. Think it's important to remember that change for changes sake doesn't always make things better.
 
MtnBuff said:
Why even bother with a regular season? You would have teams in the playoffs with 5 losses.

One of the reasons I always preferred college football over the NFL was having every regular season game meaning something. Now it is getting more and more like the NFL. Don't have to be the best all year as long as you are good enough to get into the playoff. They a combination of who is hottest, gets a favorable bracket, and some luck determines who wins it all. You can have a team go undefeated all year and lose a close playoff game but the "champion" is a team that lost 4 games but got hot at the end and caught a couple playoff opponents that lost key players to injuries plus a questionable officials call or two.
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As an Arkansas baseball fan, I 100% agree.
 
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