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Colorado's Greg Brown Out? (EB moved to the sidelines)

Bone Buff said:
Correction, I guess it could be Wazzu's DC, they we're pretty bad vs. UNLV, but they made these crazy things called HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS.
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Leach can and will can DC's at the drop of a hat. He went through what, three at TT before Ruffin "My belt is longer than a Olympic Pool" McNeill got the D playing well.
 
SINKRATZ said:
I guess I would be encouraged that they recognize a problem and are trying to fix it, but I don't want this to be an excuse to give this staff more time to right the ship. What quality DC in their right mind would want to jump in to this situation?
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Why wouldn't they? They couldn't possibly be worse; anyone who comes in would be seen as a genius.
 
IF, big if, true then it signals to me that the fans, alumni are being heard. Gotta keep up the noise.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
I agree - but for the past two years the offense has averaged about 200 yards per game. That's gotta be concerning too.

The fact that Bieniemy has a multiyear deal might be the difference.
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I agree offense has been bad but I am not sure giving up on EB is the right thing now. Brown has some weak areas on Defense but with the LB's we have, decent DL there is no excuse for Fresno to bitch slap us. On Offense tho the issue in my mind is still talent level. I am guessing that there is not a coordinator in this country who is going to be able to put up numbers with this group right now. No offense to the following players but look at some of the positions..... WR we have Nelson Spruce, Tyler McCulloch, Dustin Ebner and Gerald Thomas, Justin Gorman and Keenan Canty on the depth chart. Only one of those guys is a true D1 athlete (maybe 2 if count Canty but his size and production seem to argue against at the moment). TE we have a converted DE who is a great athlete but not gonna learn and perfect a position in less than 1 year, and other TE are kinda a joke. RB we HAD nothing that resembled a full time D1 back. Guys like Tony are awesome as a change up once you get a team a bit tired.... Not a guy to pound away with. Now to EB credit may have found a star in Powell and I give him props for making the switch early and confidently. OL...... I don't even think I need to go into it.... clearly talent is lacking here.
SO bottom line is I would be more inclined to give EB more time once he gets some more talent on his side of the ball. I really am not sure anyone could produce much with the current depth chart on O. And at least I see some growth from EB. He has made bad calls and decisions at times but he seems to learn from them and not make the same mistakes over and over.
 
BuffClass90 said:
Why wouldn't they? They couldn't possibly be worse; anyone who comes in would be seen as a genius.
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Two reasons: 1) any good DC candidate probably already has a job, and 2) if it appears the HC is about to get canned, your job security is almost non-existent.
 
Ralphandler1 said:
I agree offense has been bad but I am not sure giving up on EB is the right thing now. Brown has some weak areas on Defense but with the LB's we have, decent DL there is no excuse for Fresno to bitch slap us. On Offense tho the issue in my mind is still talent level. I am guessing that there is not a coordinator in this country who is going to be able to put up numbers with this group right now. No offense to the following players but look at some of the positions..... WR we have Nelson Spruce, Tyler McCulloch, Dustin Ebner and Gerald Thomas, Justin Gorman and Keenan Canty on the depth chart. Only one of those guys is a true D1 athlete (maybe 2 if count Canty but his size and production seem to argue against at the moment). TE we have a converted DE who is a great athlete but not gonna learn and perfect a position in less than 1 year, and other TE are kinda a joke. RB we HAD nothing that resembled a full time D1 back. Guys like Tony are awesome as a change up once you get a team a bit tired.... Not a guy to pound away with. Now to EB credit may have found a star in Powell and I give him props for making the switch early and confidently. OL...... I don't even think I need to go into it.... clearly talent is lacking here.
SO bottom line is I would be more inclined to give EB more time once he gets some more talent on his side of the ball. I really am not sure anyone could produce much with the current depth chart on O. And at least I see some growth from EB. He has made bad calls and decisions at times but he seems to learn from them and not make the same mistakes over and over.
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I see growth from JE and EB...it just has nothing to do with coaching.
 
IF Browneye gets flushed, look for Cabral to take over, that is th eonly move that owuld make any sense. A new DC isn't coming before December....
 
Ralphandler1 said:
I agree offense has been bad but I am not sure giving up on EB is the right thing now. Brown has some weak areas on Defense but with the LB's we have, decent DL there is no excuse for Fresno to bitch slap us. On Offense tho the issue in my mind is still talent level. I am guessing that there is not a coordinator in this country who is going to be able to put up numbers with this group right now. No offense to the following players but look at some of the positions..... WR we have Nelson Spruce, Tyler McCulloch, Dustin Ebner and Gerald Thomas, Justin Gorman and Keenan Canty on the depth chart. Only one of those guys is a true D1 athlete (maybe 2 if count Canty but his size and production seem to argue against at the moment). TE we have a converted DE who is a great athlete but not gonna learn and perfect a position in less than 1 year, and other TE are kinda a joke. RB we HAD nothing that resembled a full time D1 back. Guys like Tony are awesome as a change up once you get a team a bit tired.... Not a guy to pound away with. Now to EB credit may have found a star in Powell and I give him props for making the switch early and confidently. OL...... I don't even think I need to go into it.... clearly talent is lacking here.
SO bottom line is I would be more inclined to give EB more time once he gets some more talent on his side of the ball. I really am not sure anyone could produce much with the current depth chart on O. And at least I see some growth from EB. He has made bad calls and decisions at times but he seems to learn from them and not make the same mistakes over and over.
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Dude, the play calling is bull****! EB is basically the assistant head coach because the paid him as such, so they won't fire him. And I'd like to see someone approach him to demote him to RB coach and take away his play calling abilities. Let me know how that doesn't come to blows. We've seen how in EVERY game, we fail to have our WR's run slants, screens and bubble routes in order to beat the blitz. Talented or not, these players are being set up to fail.
 
leftybuff said:
IF Browneye gets flushed, look for Cabral to take over, that is th eonly move that owuld make any sense. A new DC isn't coming before December....
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Agree.

And even then getting a good one will be tough. If JE is considered to have poor job security a good DC will not accept a job.
 
RalphieSpeaks said:
Agree.

And even then getting a good one will be tough. If JE is considered to have poor job security a good DC will not accept a job.
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And recruiting is tough...

It's a death sprial. It's why the staff must be replaced wholesale.
 
Ralphandler1 said:
I agree offense has been bad but I am not sure giving up on EB is the right thing now. Brown has some weak areas on Defense but with the LB's we have, decent DL there is no excuse for Fresno to bitch slap us. On Offense tho the issue in my mind is still talent level.
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Look at this photo. LOOK AT IT.

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Not having anyone lined up on the right side of the formation IS NOT A TALENT ISSUE.
 
Huge fan of Cabral, will leave him at his linebackers coach/assistant coach role. The program needs a proven DC.
 
Jaximus said:
Dude, the play calling is bull****! EB is basically the assistant head coach because the paid him as such, so they won't fire him. And I'd like to see someone approach him to demote him to RB coach and take away his play calling abilities. Let me know how that doesn't come to blows. We've seen how in EVERY game, we fail to have our WR's run slants, screens and bubble routes in order to beat the blitz. Talented or not, these players are being set up to fail.
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Well I am not saying I am a football genius or anything but my opinion is not the same on this one. Playaction on 4th and 1 from the 6 inch line= bad call and I think he learned from it. But I watched the Fresno game live and then just for punishment I watched it on DVR to see what the hell was so bad. And what I saw was not terrible offensive play calls. Were they perfect.... No! But I saw a TON of slants and short routes..... most of which were dropped, not thrown to or the QB was being hounded by DL within 3 seconds and couldn't get the ball out. A slant, a screen etc is all predicated on your ability to allow the play to develop quickly from the pocket and execute quickly. But you can't throw a slant when getting flushed out of the pocket in less than 3 seconds. He calls the EXACT same run plays we did with Barrnett the difference is in 2000-2006 we had OL that had a lot more talent. I actually have some interesting offense stats from the first 3 games...
Avg yards gained on 1st downs- 4.8
Run plays- 107
Rush yardage- 413 (Avg per rush 3.9 yards)
Passing- 46/97 for 548 yards (Avg 12 yards per)
Overall yards gained 869 in 204 plays for avg of 4.6 yards per play

In other successful years (1990-1996, 2001-2005) those stats are only a tad low in some areas but a lot higher in others. Those other good teams averaged around 4-5 yards per rush. But the passing numbers for this years team are significantly higher. Look at arguably the best CU ever in terms of talent and offense (1994) which only averaged 8.8 yards per pass. This years team is averaging 12. Now I agree this offense looks terrible but I only bring these up because I think it shows despite the ****** OL and ****** WR and terrible QB..... EB is calling plays which are on par with successful teams of the past. Now why are results different...... maybe giving up 69 points? Maybe having bad field position as an offense? Maybe turnovers? IMO those are the biggest issues (along with def) not so much a result of EB play calling. Cause as the stats show it is not actually the case.
 
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Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Ringo reporting minor changes in responsibilities to be announced today. No firings.
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Embree is just putting lip service to changes on the staff to try to quiet buffnation. If it somehow works, then great. But I see another blowout coming in a few days.
 
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