SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Wow.
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Wow.
Can't disagree with anything you say here. Only I would add that to show that incremental progress we need to go out and play well against the teams that we should beat or be competitive against. We are lightyears away from USC, Oregon, Stanford, talentwise. We are way behind a number of others in the league.
Part of the problem we faced under Embree and Hawk before him was not showing up for games that we should have at least been competitive with if not be much better than. We have to at least play to our abilities. This still isn't going to be enough to keep from getting smashed by some of the schools on our schedule but it will be a start.
I am less concerned about the win total than I am about moving in the right direction but if we are moving in the right direction we will get some wins.
So you think Fresno would even be competitive in the PAC? You have to be kidding. They are a good, not great, mid-major team. Nothing better, nothing worse.
I'm not counting Fresno as a should be automatic win but if we play well we should beat them at home. Don't play well and they will beat us but last season was no indication of the relative talent or abilities of the two schools.
koolaid is yummy. Or so they tell me.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I couldn't care less about how Fresno stacks up against the rest of the PAC and who gives a s**t anyway? I'm talking about CU and we were completely outclassed in every phase imaginable by them last year. You seem to think a new coach and playing at Folsom (where we have won exactly 1 game in the past 2 years) is somehow going to make up the difference and I think that is completely ridiculous.
Excellent. We need to enact revenge for the ochs debacle...being dogs and kicking the dawgs asses will work out well for us...
We also won't hear talk from HCMM about 6 wins (or 10). I just think he's smarter than that. How about we are hoping for improvement thru the year! Frankly, I don't see more than 2 teams we are better than at this point.
I'll also add I picked the Buffs to win 3-4 games this past year. That was realistic given PRich's injury and our lack of playmakers. Oh yeah, I somehow didn't get the memo that Connor Wood would be all Pac12 over the summer. Those QB question marks are always problematic.
So given the uncertainly at QB, and a lack of anything resembling a depth chart at almost every position, I'll suggest 2-3 wins should be the over/under. But I would expect we will be competitive in more games. But we won't have the athletes on Defense to hang with the high flying Pac12 offenses. Not yet.
I think 3-4 wins is probably about right. We are still going to be pretty young in most areas. I do think being competitive in more games is a good expectation to have. I am guessing we lose a couple heartbreakers due to not knowing how to close games out.
We do need to win that Central Arkansas game. The struggles against FCS teams need to end.
We do need to win that Central Arkansas game. The struggles against FCS teams need to end.
So 2-1 OOC and 1-8 on conference? Don't see it
I'm curious though how you went from saying a bowl game last year to 3-4 wins next.
Probably because I was dead wrong about this year's team. What else needs to be said?
This.
two wins maybe three. Depends how the p12 lays out the schedule. If HCMM is the real deal we should be more competitive on a game by game basis, but still lose due to a lack play makers.. That being said, depending on the generosity of the P12 schedule we could get a win late in the season on experience (outside of UU) if one of the easier teams is up for us near the end. If we face USC, O, before UU probably not.
We lack the OL and DL to play ball with the big boys at this point. And we're really young again too.
I mean other than the fact we return almost all of our OL that started (excluding guys who started due to injuries like Dannewitz), DL, secondary, RB's, WR's +PRich and the Texas duo, and FB's (not that they are used much in the new offense). We are returning a lot of young players with a year of experience. The OL started to come on strong next season and Powell will be even better next season and PRich playing will really help out Spruce and GT.
And if CU goes 2-10 or 3-9 next season it will be very disappointing. That would mean likely going 0-9 in conference play which not even Embree managed. It's not out of this world to expect to win two of three against Cal, Arizona, and Utah along with going 2-1 in the OOC at the worst. Anything less than 4-8 will be extremely disappointing. Last season other than god awful coaching there was no excuse to not win 4 games. Less talented teams beat more talented teams all the time, the difference is coaching and we have a coach who managed to turn SJSU into a 11 game winner after they nearly dropped their program. I don't want to look too much into the Stanford game because they are clearly a different team now than they were when SJSU played them but Mac kept it close with a real shot of winning.
And this new offense will be much easier to learn than the previous offense.
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I'd be ecstatic with 4 wins. I expect 1-2 though. I admire your enthusiasm. If we don't get clubbed like a baby seal week in and week out that's a sign of improvement. Having the lead, even briefly, is also a sign. A defensive take away is a sign. The line not getting man handled is a sign. Not finishing near last in some NCAA categories is another sign. Once we do all that we migh record some wins.
Well we had leads against CSU, Sac State, and Utah last year. There's three games we should have won.
Seriously, one win? WTF? One or two wins would be regressing, regardless of the 1-11 record last year.
I would have guessed that it took a lot less than that, ScotchBuff.
BuffaloChuck
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Yes, I'll vote in this camp. Although I'm more pleased that he choose THIS calibre of text than the opposite side, I know. Still, get the grades, get the education. That's the best THIS crop of players can hope for. School (and football program) success remains about 90% of what the student can get out of it for himself, for his own goals. Scoreboards are insignificant, by comparison.
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
Hard to really put a number on the wins next year without seeing what we're rolling with, but I'm pretty sure a 5 win season at the minimum is probably not going to happen.
At the very least we should manhandle the freakin' FCS team we have scheduled. I'd also like to think we should beat CSU, but beyond that, I'm not going to expect any other wins on the schedule. We traded out Stanford and WSU for Cal and OSU which isn't really in our favor, so the P12 schedule gets harder.
At the very least we should manhandle the freakin' FCS team we have scheduled. I'd also like to think we should beat CSU, but beyond that, I'm not going to expect any other wins on the schedule. We traded out Stanford and WSU for Cal and OSU which isn't really in our favor, so the P12 schedule gets harder.
Well, you can set your bench mark at 4 and ill set mine at 2. Fair enough?
No. My opinion>your opinion :thumbsup:
Good point. But if we had a competent coaching staff last year we would have been 4-8. I'm expecting 4-8 to 6-6 next year, but that's what I thought this year. Ugh! This program is pathetic.
somebody
Well-Known Member
Counting is obviously not your strong point.
Buffenuf
massive tool
Water Bottle's staff could have coached Alabama's talent to a 3-9 record, that's how bad they were in scheming and making personnel choices.
CU's talent is not horrible and certainly not the equal of OU, USC and UCLA, but the latter two teams' staff appear to do so much less with more talent than they are given credit for. Kiffin and Mora both remain questionable hires.
That said, the Buffs' talent needs to be coached up and schemed to put them in a position to make plays. Fresno and AZ games were perfect examples of FUBAR scheming. Both opponents's offenses were made to look all-World by just horrible schemes and by clueless players just going through the motions.
All of these problems could be cured by the new staff implementing their methods that were successful at SJSU and by just coaching up these college kids to play with pride and emotion. WB's team played indifferently because WB was about as inspiring as a wet rag and NFL-style, expected the kids to psych up themselves.
in any event, been down so long, anything HCMM does, will look like up to me!
CU's talent is not horrible and certainly not the equal of OU, USC and UCLA, but the latter two teams' staff appear to do so much less with more talent than they are given credit for. Kiffin and Mora both remain questionable hires.
That said, the Buffs' talent needs to be coached up and schemed to put them in a position to make plays. Fresno and AZ games were perfect examples of FUBAR scheming. Both opponents's offenses were made to look all-World by just horrible schemes and by clueless players just going through the motions.
All of these problems could be cured by the new staff implementing their methods that were successful at SJSU and by just coaching up these college kids to play with pride and emotion. WB's team played indifferently because WB was about as inspiring as a wet rag and NFL-style, expected the kids to psych up themselves.
in any event, been down so long, anything HCMM does, will look like up to me!