Two beats one but you are right, Dean Smith gets a lot of reputation based on the end of his career and it did take him a long time to get there.
Maybe we could go for a Bobby Knight without all the surrounding drama.
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Could Buffaloes Coach Tad Boyle Be A Candidate At Kansas State?
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Two beats one but you are right, Dean Smith gets a lot of reputation based on the end of his career and it did take him a long time to get there.
Maybe we could go for a Bobby Knight without all the surrounding drama.
Dean had a run of like 15 straight years making the Sweet 16, too, iirc. They were amazing.
From a record standpoint I would gladly take a Lute, Dean, or Bobby in Boulder. Dean and Bobby also ran programs with very clean reputations and had very high graduation rates. I won't comment on Lute's record as far as graduating kids because I don't know how he did there but I don't remember him getting a lot of bad publicity either in terms of how he ran the program.
Frankly, if Tad does half as much as any of those guys accomplished in Boulder he will be head and shoulders above any other BB coach we have ever had.
BeBe
Club Member
UUUMMMMMMMMMMMMM ... A CU resume like either of those would work just fine for me.
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
Is it me or did it seem like they never left the state of NC until the final four during that run?
Culture question for you Sacky, do you really think CU is ready to pay Boyle 65% MORE than its head football coach and offensive co-ordinator combined?
Darian3Hagan
'89 Player of the Year
When the FB coaches start winning championships they will get raises too.
This is my big fear. I have very little doubt that the administration is willing to give Boyle a blank check. I just wonder what the political fallout will be when CU -- which is a football school historically -- starts giving their basketball coach $2 million a year.
I guess our football program better get it in gear then.
It becomes a lot easier to justify when you can look at a program that historically has been a money loser and show it to be a money maker, even with the coaches salary jumping up to that level.
D3H is also correct in that Tad has wins to fall back on. I have no doubt that when Embree and EB start winning a significant number of games and Folsom is sold out on a regular basis their contracts will be readjusted to reflect that.
D3H is also correct in that Tad has wins to fall back on. I have no doubt that when Embree and EB start winning a significant number of games and Folsom is sold out on a regular basis their contracts will be readjusted to reflect that.
The political fallout will be CU says "**** it" and goes private.
Guys the AD is absolutely committed to the football program. There is no way they are going to spend a quarter of a billion dollars on facilities if they weren't. The coaches are going to get all the support they need to build a winning program here and then it will be up to them to be successful. If Tad only won a quarter of his games this year, we wouldn't be talking about a 2 million dollar paycheck.
KU radio color guy.
Do I think CU would up Boyle to $2 million a year to keep him? Yes. Do I think it would raise some eyebrows in both the donor base and the AD due to the culture built up over the years? Absolutely. It is what it is. Basketball is grabbing the headlines and delivering wins, but we are still a football-oriented school at heart. That mindset tends to manifest itself when you start talking about raising the basketball coach's salary in a big way.
The Fact that the main question in this thread is still in doubt saddens me. Tad isn't going anywhere people. If kansas comes calling when Bill Self leaves, we may have a discussion, but K State could offer Tad $100 Million and I'm still pretty sure he wouldn't be going there.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
Exactly. Kansas maybe, Kansas' bitch - hell no.
Is KSU seriously considering hiring Doug Gottlieb who has never coached a game? He knows the game and has recruiting contacts...but talk about out the box. Talk about their AD sticking his neck waaaaaaay out there if this actually happens.
http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=f760830e0c7e4cf18832a37c0dd31e3a
http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=f760830e0c7e4cf18832a37c0dd31e3a
rodrigo
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Fify
There are two ways of looking at that. First, we are probably under-paying our head football coach and offensive coordinator. Second, the basketball program has shown a lot more success than the football program. So yes, I think it would be completely appropriate and yes, I think CU is ready to do that (at least they should be). Once our football team has the kind of success our basketball team is having, then by all means, jack up Embree's salary.
CU is a de-facto private institution anyway. They get something like 5% of their operating funding from the state. That is nothing. However, being a state institution has a lot of other benefits, like being able to tell the city of Boulder to jump in a lake whenever CU wants to build a 20-story dorm complex. CU doesn't need the money it gets from the state. It's had to make a lot of adjustments in order to cover the reduced funding. So at this point, CU has the best of both worlds. All the perks that come with being a state institution without a lot of the political pressure that comes with it. Honestly, do you think there's a governor or state legislator who can try to tell CU how to operate at this point? They'd be laughed out of the room.
rolandftw
Club Member
Boyle's interview with 810 this morning, for those interested. It's on the top left of the page.
http://www.810whb.com/page.php?page_id=140
http://www.810whb.com/page.php?page_id=140
$250,000,000.00 on facilities? First I've heard...
Buffellow85
Well-Known Member
I'm surprised Scott Hasting's name hasnt' come up.
Yep, the CU administration has completely shot down the multi year contract limits imposed by the state, and given all of the assistants multi year deals. Completely laughed the state legislature right out of the room...
The current administration likes that rule. Once Benson & DiStefano move on, if the news guys want multi-year in the AD, we'll get a good test of the power balance.