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CSU had a nice win against an SEC team
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Hard to argue against the SEC West though
jizzrag85
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Mine is not. But I suppose I can take one for the team for CU’s benefit.
Confident in Bama and Auburn being very good at the moment. Also think Miss State is a Top 20 team.
LSU needs to prove a lot more, starting this weekend. A&M has some major depth issues (OL and four scholarship ILBs) which will get exposed as the season goes along.
I will root for CSU v Florida. Then maybe if BSU is ranked ahead of us. But that's it.
Nebraska - I won't "root" for them, but hope they beat a team that's ranked ahead of us - Ohio State, Mich - but lose all the other **** games they play; Troy, Minnesota, Purdue...
Nebraska - I won't "root" for them, but hope they beat a team that's ranked ahead of us - Ohio State, Mich - but lose all the other **** games they play; Troy, Minnesota, Purdue...
****braska can lose every other game they play. Want the shine to wear off the frost era as quickly as possible Dude is a whiny punk.
I'll agree, especially this year. I don't think Nebraska LOSING will hurt us, they can lose everything, make Frost look like a tool. But if it comes down to a playoff spot, I gotta say I'd want any team, even if it was Neb, to help us out.
There's no way Troy has the depth up front to handle Nub's OL or DL. Like them or not, those guys are men.
I watched a condensed replay of the csu game last night. Preston Williams, think that's right, #11, kicked the balls off of Arkansas. They couldn't do anything with him.
That guy's a legitimate talent. It really speaks to Tennessee's dysfunction that they let him go.
LaserDeathHawk
Club Member
Well it’s a complicated problem. There’s real calculus involved in the rise and fall of a single program within the context of Conference standings and both the subjective factors and the algorithms that determine national rankings. But you know...**** Nebraska.
No argument here, dude is talented.
That's the thing, they didn't need to throw it really. Just about every damn time they ran it, they were getting 10+ just about.
however several times on 3rd down when they needed that one completion they couldn't deliver
True, their passing game is no bueno.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
That's why winning the Arkansas game probably saved their season-They'd be 0-4, and even more ripe to get nailed by Illinois State or whatever cupcake they're playing next week had they lost. Assuming they're 1-3 coming home from Florida this week, here's their next three: Illinois State, at San Jose State (who might be the worst team in FBS football-they lost to an FCS team coached by some guy named Dan Hawkins), and New Mexico at home. The idea that they're 4-3 going to Boise in late October isn't that far fetched, and they're a lot more likely (this might become a good bye week thread) to make a bowl game than Nebraska.
I just saw this little snippet that I had completely forgotten about: Tomorrow's game in the Swamp is the final installment of the buyout from Florida to CSU for Jim McElwain. It's also the highest number- by a significant amount- paid to a team for a one-off game. CSU gets $2M, and the previous record was $1.7M.
I have to wonder if both schools would like to have this one back, though?
Florida definitely would; McElwain cost them dearly at the time of the hire ($7M to CSU), and then another $7.5M to get rid of him mid-season last year, and $500K to MSU to hire Mullen at a $1.5M more per year than McElwain.
$7M to CSU was a major windfall (that basically they've used to pay SA stipends for the past few years), but after winning 9 and 10 games under McElwain they've capped out at 6 wins each of the last three years under Bobo in a down period for the MWC, and they will seriously struggle to find 6 wins anywhere on the calendar this year. Would they have been better off with McElwain instead of the $7M?
I have to wonder if both schools would like to have this one back, though?
Florida definitely would; McElwain cost them dearly at the time of the hire ($7M to CSU), and then another $7.5M to get rid of him mid-season last year, and $500K to MSU to hire Mullen at a $1.5M more per year than McElwain.
$7M to CSU was a major windfall (that basically they've used to pay SA stipends for the past few years), but after winning 9 and 10 games under McElwain they've capped out at 6 wins each of the last three years under Bobo in a down period for the MWC, and they will seriously struggle to find 6 wins anywhere on the calendar this year. Would they have been better off with McElwain instead of the $7M?
ahoelsken
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Sparkles left of his own volition-so not sure your point on CSU is that relevant....
Yes, he certainly wanted to go, but that was only because Florida made the offer. I'm imagining a scenario where the offer from Florida never materialized, and neither did another P5 offer.
Would that scenario have been better for CSU or the one that actually ended up happening?
Didn't Florida essentially pay $3 million? They paid for a one off game ($2 million) which is a little high but nothing crazy for a G5 road trip and then McElwain paid $2 million out of his own pocket to get the hell out of there.
ahoelsken
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$2m is the highest one game guarantee ever in @Denver_sc's post. A couple things to compare that with we got $1.4m each for the game at Ohio State in 2011 and Michigan in 2016.....last year's highest guarantee was $1.65M (Nubs-Arkansas State)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-million-college-football-programs/608668001/
Yeah I said it is a little high. They got paid $1.5 million for each Bama game. Utah State got $1.4 million at MSU, Western Kentucky got $1.35 million at Wisconsin. CSU is a better draw than those two teams but they definitely over paid.
I'm not sure about McElwain paying $2M of his own to get out of the CSU contract, but please re-read my post on the other point:
CSU gets $2M [for the roadie], and the previous record was $1.7M.
In other words, it's really high for a G5 road trip. In comparison, a P5 school (Oregon State) got only $1.7 for travelling to tOSU this year. In other words, it's 17% higher than ANY other team has ever been paid for a one-off game.
Any way you look at it, the cost to Florida to hire McElwain has been tremendous, even if you just look at the tangibles. He was terrible at FLA, but he did well at CSU. is he maybe a good fit for that level of competition?
I agreed it was high I just didn't see it as anything crazy in this situation. Essentially Florida paid CSU $3.5 million ($7 million minus the $2 million from McElwain minus $1.5 million for a typical road game for an upper tier MWC team as evident by the USU game this year) to hire McElwain, that is nothing for them. It definitely didn't work out but the money shouldn't concern anyone, especially since they got a steal in the buyout last year with his antics with the death threat.
ahoelsken
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If I'm McElwain, I'd go back to CSU in a heartbeat if they got rid of Bobo-which ain't happening anytime soon....that figure is 25% of what they'd need to dump him lol..
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/...o-contract-extension/?productCode=WebAccessSP
Wow. Was I ever wrong. The old' Nubs let us beat them twice this year!