For head coach, not for assistants. We have a garbage assistant salary number. Then if someone were to fix that they have to fix the monumental admin deficit we have on the support staff.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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hawg1
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If this is, in fact, a collective, Kelli needs to get out front. Thus guy’s cred is in the crapper.
ahoelsken
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Agree 100%. The chemistry, talk of a brotherhood, and better culture could be real. We'll find out in a month. If he's on twitter talking about how the chemistry, talk of a brotherhood, better culture, and better coaching on the offensive side of the ball make a bowl bid very realistic......sure. I can get behind that.
I'm expecting either a) this program has improved but the schedule is tougher so we're 4-8 or 5-7 again or b) this thing goes totally off the rails to the point where Dorrell does get fired (Adam in a summer mailbag podcast did admit that was possible-recorded in late July), but I'll happily admit I'm wrong if this team surprises and makes a bowl.
Just my feeling that if you want elite head coaches with an elite staff you most likely need elite money. Even if you take a flyer on a first time HC, if they succeed, you will have to pay to keep him.
And of course getting a guy who will raise CU to success isn’t just about money. It’ll take discernment within the AD to find that guy. And probably a bit of luck.
Every time there is an opening we hear all of the “CU is a sleeping giant” stuff. But every single choice we’ve made has been flawed. I’m sick of it.
The school topped $3.5MM in 2022 for the assistant coaches. That's not great (Tucker got over $5MM at MSU) but it's not garbage. It's hard to argue for more money when the school horribly overpays people like Chev and coach sled. The school needs to be smarter in their hires and not just give mediocre coaches more money hoping that somehow makes them better.
The AD is given more money than ever and goes out and gives Karl Dorrelll the biggest pay increase of his life. He was probably making $300K at Miami. My argument is simply that the AD hasn't shown that they make good choices with the money they are given. Why would you believe that giving them more money is going to solve anything
I got nuthin’. Wait! I left out the “throw the bums out” part!
Order of operations:
>”guys drank from firehose this summer”
>simplify playbook during bye week
>”focus on fundamentals and play fast, no thinking”
>point to ‘close losses’
>2-10
>”that’s what happens with a new system, so another year to learn”
>recruit poorly
>stars don’t matter
>2023 3-9
Yeah I (and I’m sure many others) will not give money to people who squander it 100% of the time. Gotta see a positive trajectory (winning 3 when the line is 2.5 doesn’t count) before I’m back in and I’m sure there are a lot of people in the same boat.
Keeping my money brings me way more joy than watching us spend on a DOA hire
3.5 was what 10th in the conference? The SEC and big 10 pay way more than the pac 12 as a whole so yes, that is garbage.
Disclaimer: money absolutely matters imo, however…..
There are numerous G5 teams over the last 15 yrs that could/did mudhole us while spending a fraction on their coaching staff and program. Hell Utah was a G5 with the same coach they have now.
It takes a special kind of stupid to deliver the consistently terrible results our admin has over the last 15 yrs with their budget. It’s not a blue blood level of resources, or even a mid tier, but it’s not a 1 legit bowl game invite in 15 yrs budget.
I bet Karl alone makes more than the Coastal Carolina staff and I wouldn’t be surprised if they delivered better results or at least entertainment value. I bet they’d have beaten the high bar of 129/130th ranked offense in FBS last year
There are numerous G5 teams over the last 15 yrs that could/did mudhole us while spending a fraction on their coaching staff and program. Hell Utah was a G5 with the same coach they have now.
It takes a special kind of stupid to deliver the consistently terrible results our admin has over the last 15 yrs with their budget. It’s not a blue blood level of resources, or even a mid tier, but it’s not a 1 legit bowl game invite in 15 yrs budget.
I bet Karl alone makes more than the Coastal Carolina staff and I wouldn’t be surprised if they delivered better results or at least entertainment value. I bet they’d have beaten the high bar of 129/130th ranked offense in FBS last year
ahoelsken
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Tell Jerdough to knock that off then.
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That last part should piss every CU fan off.
I don’t disagree that other schools have had nice gains with staffs that make less. However, it doesn’t make sense to compare Colorado to Coastal. They are within driving distance to several areas with plentiful football talent.
Their admissions standards are not stringent.
Sure that’s fair, just some hyperbole (my favorite rhetorical device).
But definitely could’ve had better results with some competent leadership. Money is an issue when it comes to getting good, but hasn’t been the issue in regards to avoiding total and complete inadequacy
I think the big thing was recruits he couldn't get through admissions and lost to Oregon State. That was a total violation of the promises made to him.
The AD needs strong leadership because the admin DGAF. We don’t have it, so we continue to circulate down the toilet bowl.
That was later though. He lost out on coaches early, was bitching about the schedule (playing TAMU) and then the recruiting restrictions happened and it was all over.
But there’s no chance he took the job without knowing the AC salary pool he had to work with.
Oh I’m not trying to defend his actions at all, he talked a big game but was kind of a pussy behind the scenes.
But did he specify which country he was talking about. Because it is was Luxembourg, well . ..
ahoelsken
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Oh sure. Or Nepal, Andorra.....you know
BerkeleyBuff
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Seems that ESPN is getting shut out of B1G contract. Potentially a good thing for PAC.
You forgot Liechtenstein and Vatican City.
That's the best thing that could happen for the Pac.
It’s also another step toward AFC vs NFC style and probably further expansion
“we’re one of the youngest teams in Div 1”
“a couple key injuries, a couple key plays and we were a 7-5 team”
