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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

MiamiBuffs said:
Um its only about premium properties and large TV markets. PP that create marquee matchups that deliver multiple must see tv with 4 million plus viewers per pop. That makes the people who sign the conference remittance checks happy. Thats why UT and OU are now in the SEC.
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B1G and SEC are different. I'm talking about the "Legends & Leaders" conference.
 
BlackNGold said:
I agree with this. I do not see conference expansion with G5 schools being financially beneficial. If they were so great everyone would be clamoring for a TV contract with the MWC. SDSU has pretty poor TV ratings. Boise brings nothing of value to a deal. Only expand if the networks tell you it is worth while.
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I guess you could make the argument that if you hit the MWC hard enough, it goes away and you force FOX to have to do business with you to fill their late night windows, but that's all the justification I can come up with for that.
 
InTheBuff said:
The MWC would most likely stay afloat by inviting schools like UTEP, UTSA, New Mexico St, Rice
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Holy ****. No one cares about Rice football and New Mexico State has had 7 double-digit loss seasons in the last 20. Neither gets more than 20K regularly for games. If that's what the MWC is relying upon to stay afloat, then they are well and truly ****ed.
 
If the Pac can keep UW, Oregon, Cal and Stanford in play, while killing off the MWC as any kind of legitimate evening content, there's a chance a Pac 14 could survive at the same level as the new Big 12, as they would own all of the evening content outside of USC/UCLA, and neither of those programs will agree to always playing at night when they are at home.

At that point, however, I think the B1G would just expand and take the other 4 west coast teams and kill the Pac 14, as I'm sure FOX would just take their MWC money and give it to the B1G as incentive to expand.

So, end of the day, the only way any of that works is for the Pac to get everyone to sign a 5-7 year GOR to stabilize things until the B1G is negotiating their next deal.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
If the Pac can keep UW, Oregon, Cal and Stanford in play, while killing off the MWC as any kind of legitimate evening content, there's a chance a Pac 14 could survive at the same level as the new Big 12, as they would own all of the evening content outside of USC/UCLA, and neither of those programs will agree to always playing at night when they are at home.

At that point, however, I think the B1G would just expand and take the other 4 west coast teams and kill the Pac 14, as I'm sure FOX would just take their MWC money and give it to the B1G as incentive to expand.

So, end of the day, the only way any of that works is for the Pac to get everyone to sign a 5-7 year GOR to stabilize things until the B1G is negotiating their next deal.
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No, there’s no way that would happen. We would get paid even less than the 24.5 we’re staring dead in the face of already. There is no school thats going to increase our media revenue. Not a single one. We need to be bolting to the B12 asap.
 


AZ Wildcats Podcast w/Dennis Dodd who's a big name in college sports talking about the Big12 and their desire to expand and Pac12 talk. Pretty good listen.
 
InTheBuff said:


This discusses Dennis Dodd's Podcast and Yormark's expansion talk.
Could SDSU go to the Big12?
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How can you watch this guy, much less continue to link him here? I tried to watch one and couldn’t make it more than a couple of minutes. Big12 good, Pac-12 bad, we get it
 
NW Buff said:
How can you watch this guy, much less continue to link him here? I tried to watch one and couldn’t make it more than a couple of minutes. Big12 good, Pac-12 bad, we get it
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If SDSU goes to the Big12 it will be a huge problem for the Pac12.
To me the Big12 is trying to be aggressive and the Pac the opposite. Time will tell.
 
InTheBuff said:
If SDSU goes to the Big12 it will be a huge problem for the Pac12.
To me the Big12 is trying to be aggressive and the Pac the opposite. Time will tell.
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USC had been the main obstacle to Commish K and the P12 being aggressive. They were double dealing and blocking anything which might have made them less valuable to the B1G (like having SDSU established as a P12 program in SoCal).
 
Buffs35 said:
www.si.com

Pac-12 expansion update, and media rights deal believed to be happening soon - Sports Illustrated All Cardinal News, Analysis and More

The Pac-12 needs to make a move and some experts think that move will happen very soon
www.si.com www.si.com
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I strongly endorsed SMU awhile back in this thread. Metroplex is set to surpass Chicago next decade and if we could somewhat have some kind of presence in LA such as SDSU, that would be great.

Need one more TX school imo and I think UNLV would be a good pair with SDSU. If Boise State was to enter, they probably get paired up with Utah and CU ends up with SMU.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
If the Pac can keep UW, Oregon, Cal and Stanford in play, while killing off the MWC as any kind of legitimate evening content, there's a chance a Pac 14 could survive at the same level as the new Big 12, as they would own all of the evening content outside of USC/UCLA, and neither of those programs will agree to always playing at night when they are at home.

At that point, however, I think the B1G would just expand and take the other 4 west coast teams and kill the Pac 14, as I'm sure FOX would just take their MWC money and give it to the B1G as incentive to expand.

So, end of the day, the only way any of that works is for the Pac to get everyone to sign a 5-7 year GOR to stabilize things until the B1G is negotiating their next deal. Hell, it reminds me of gambling, like here - https://betpokies.co.nz/live-casinos - I play with live dealers here sometimes.
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Purely theoretically, if B1G doesn't start negotiating the next deal, then nothing will change? I don't think B1G will start, which is why I think so.
 
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Buffnik said:
B1G and SEC are different. I'm talking about the "Legends & Leaders" conference.
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What I don't understand is the continued use of divisions in the B1G. If you went top 2 in conf plays in the conf champ game, you get more eyeballs and possibility of getting another 'The Game' or another massive $$$ marquee matchup (PSU vs. UoM, PSU vs. tOSU) in the champ game. The B1G East is always so stacked, and this would mean another convoy of Brinks trucks lined up at B1G hq, yeah?
 
CULifer said:
What I don't understand is the continued use of divisions in the B1G. If you went top 2 in conf plays in the conf champ game, you get more eyeballs and possibility of getting another 'The Game' or another massive $$$ marquee matchup (PSU vs. UoM, PSU vs. tOSU) in the champ game. The B1G East is always so stacked, and this would mean another convoy of Brinks trucks lined up at B1G hq, yeah?
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in most years, that would also reduce the number of teams which are still in contention for the CCG late in the regular season and diminish interest in multiple regular season games.

e.g. right now, every team in the B1G West is still in contention to win the division, and 4/7 have more than just a mathematical chance.
 
CULifer said:
What I don't understand is the continued use of divisions in the B1G. If you went top 2 in conf plays in the conf champ game, you get more eyeballs and possibility of getting another 'The Game' or another massive $$$ marquee matchup (PSU vs. UoM, PSU vs. tOSU) in the champ game. The B1G East is always so stacked, and this would mean another convoy of Brinks trucks lined up at B1G hq, yeah?
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Yep. Decent chance Maryland or even Rutgers could win the B1G West this year.
 
hokiehead said:
in most years, that would also reduce the number of teams which are still in contention for the CCG late in the regular season and diminish interest in multiple regular season games.

e.g. right now, every team in the B1G West is still in contention to win the division, and 4/7 have more than just a mathematical chance.
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This is it.

Eliminate divisions and by this point in the season most of the teams in the league are playing for the "Bill Al's Used Cars Bowl."

And the B1G being what it is the ratings for the CCG are going to be high no matter who is in it.

It could also in the long run mean more money for the conference because the last thing they want is a regular season conference champ knocked out of the playoff by a team they beat earlier in the season.

Assuming that Ohio State or Michigan wins the East they will still get great ratings and can add a CCG win to the playoff resume.

Likewise just assume for a moment that Michigan and Ohio State remain unbeaten until the season ending game between them.

If everything breaks right and some SEC teams pick up losses if that game is close both could get in to the playoff. Repeat the game as a CCG and now you are risking knocking one of them out.
 
Hank said:
Kliavkoff talking out his ass too. :ROFLMAO:



https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ommissioner-says-fans-not-favor-usc-ucla-move
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Yea Kliavkoff is delusional, just like Wilner has become

George Kliavkoff is lying about lack of support for USC and UCLA moving to Big Ten.​

Farrell’s take: FACT​

C’mon man. I know you’re hurt that USC and UCLA are leaving but to say you’ve spoken to more than 100 people between the two schools and not one has had a positive take on this move is a flat out lie. Or maybe they just don’t want to hurt your feelings. I’ve talked to many people on each side of this and there is nothing but excitement leaving a PAC 12 that has continually been minimized in the national scope to the Big Ten where football matters. The new PAC 12 commish isn’t being honest.
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mikefarrellsports.com

Fact or Fiction: Jim Leonhard, Hugh Freeze, USC & UCLA - Mike Farrell Sports

In Mike Farrell's Fact or Fiction, he determines whether Jim Leonhard should be pushing the Badgers AD...
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CarolinaBuff said:
Yea Kliavkoff is delusional, just like Wilner has become



mikefarrellsports.com

Fact or Fiction: Jim Leonhard, Hugh Freeze, USC & UCLA - Mike Farrell Sports

In Mike Farrell's Fact or Fiction, he determines whether Jim Leonhard should be pushing the Badgers AD...
mikefarrellsports.com mikefarrellsports.com
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Kliavkoff spoke to 100 people on the rowing and equestrian teams.
CarolinaBuff said:
Yea Kliavkoff is delusional, just like Wilner has become



mikefarrellsports.com

Fact or Fiction: Jim Leonhard, Hugh Freeze, USC & UCLA - Mike Farrell Sports

In Mike Farrell's Fact or Fiction, he determines whether Jim Leonhard should be pushing the Badgers AD...
mikefarrellsports.com mikefarrellsports.com
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in fairness to Kliavkoff, the participants in the non revenue sports are pretty unhappy, some even pissed. But, in the end, they don’t exist without football money, so their upsetness really doesn’t matter.
 
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