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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Big Jim
WTF?
This whole situation is loke watching a car wreck in slow motion. We have to wait and see how bad the wreck, if CU just blows a flat or ends up on blocks behind a tumblweed truck stop.
I have all the confidence in the world that this will go as well as @Darth Snow ’s road trip to ABQ.
He probably doesn't want CU to leave the Pac-12 so he's just not interested
KU
Neighboring State
Although they already have KSU
Maybe another AFC West concept where we have UT, AZ, KU, CU as a rock solid hate group for so many reasons.
Fine. Okie Lite and TCU on the same level as Washington, Oregon State with Iowa State, Wazzou with Texas Tech.
After that which school is on the same level as CU? And Oregon? And Cal? And Stanford? And ASU? And Zona?
Cause after TCU Okie Lite I see a lot of crappy uninteresting programs. Equating football wins and losses is not a great metric Because its relative and short lived.
Finally, A lot of us have a list. On that list is ‘would I go to school there if I didnt go to to CU’? People take an interest in other schools and there games when they are on that list. We get excited, we tune in. I think I speak for nearly all of us when I say NONE of the BigXII schools are on our lists.
Perfect analogy. For some reason people keep cheering for the tumbleweed truck stop with the meth hookers though.
Big Jim
WTF?
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Theyll put us with KU, KSU, and ISU
^3 in the ”west”At least we can save by taking the bus instead of a plane
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Scrimmage!
Long, our only real chance of winning. So glad to see those days behind us.
JayHawk
Well-Known Member
Those that hate the idea of coming back to the B12 I am just not sure what options you think CU has?
1. Go to the B1G os SEC? You have not been invited and it doesn’t look thats is an option in the short term.
2. Stay in the PAC? It’s an option though it will be and always has been a money loser and visibility loser. I saw the posts about SDSU replacing CU (which I dont think they can fill half of what you’d do) and I am wondering are we past the point of talking about how to replace USC and UCLA? No new TV deal and it has been months and months.
3. Go independen? I like CU but while Notre Dame does it and BYU has done it they have/had some built in fanbases.
4. Disband sports? I would not be surprised if Cal does that at some point but never CU.
I went to both KU and UW. UW is a bigger brand than OSU but their national stature has taken lots of hits since the split title season (Miami- we would have murdered them. I was there for that)
im rooting for you to be successful though a few hare sound like Utah fans. Deion will get football going though I think it will be a bumpy road in the short term with high expectactions. If you end up in the B12 I look forward to blowing you out our first meetings in both football and basketball.
1. Go to the B1G os SEC? You have not been invited and it doesn’t look thats is an option in the short term.
2. Stay in the PAC? It’s an option though it will be and always has been a money loser and visibility loser. I saw the posts about SDSU replacing CU (which I dont think they can fill half of what you’d do) and I am wondering are we past the point of talking about how to replace USC and UCLA? No new TV deal and it has been months and months.
3. Go independen? I like CU but while Notre Dame does it and BYU has done it they have/had some built in fanbases.
4. Disband sports? I would not be surprised if Cal does that at some point but never CU.
I went to both KU and UW. UW is a bigger brand than OSU but their national stature has taken lots of hits since the split title season (Miami- we would have murdered them. I was there for that)
im rooting for you to be successful though a few hare sound like Utah fans. Deion will get football going though I think it will be a bumpy road in the short term with high expectactions. If you end up in the B12 I look forward to blowing you out our first meetings in both football and basketball.
I think it’s the vastly superior annual distribution per school (that we expect to be confirmed any day, week or month now)
Thanks. We dont know that the Pac is done until were told that it is. Or until more teams bolt.
I still see brands in the conference that are appealing and people will tune in and watch. The TV people also need inventory for viewers too. So someone will pay us something for that content. It just might not be what we want and thats the sticking point.
You dont say
On Miami, of the 4 mNCs they won in the 80s and early 90s that Erickson team was weaker then the previous three teams. Don James had a machine by then at UW.
Victory
Well-Known Member
We’re starting the season on Fox Big Noon, Fox Big Noon and ESPN. In the P12. Despite that, we can’t expect any conference outside of B1G or SEC to have great exposure going forward. Just naive to think that given the networks massive investment in both.
No one knows if there’s a deal at all and if ESPN and Fox are involved, even for very limited inventory. If they are, our exposure will be fine. The money, likely comparable despite the panic. So it’s about:
Where do we fit best?
Who gives us the best network matchups?
Who best positions us for the B1G/SEC?
Big Jim
WTF?
I hate the idea of having a digital rectal exam at my annual physical but the other option is a possible late stage cancer diagnosis. Bad optuons either way, but one has a worse outcome.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
Banners fly forever.
1989Buff
62-36
I feel like some people on here are delusional. The Pac-12 was having severe issues competing for money against other conferences WITH the L.A. schools (and USC wass THE marquee national brand in the conference). We were becoming a total afterthought WITH those schools (schools with brands high profile enough to be coveted by the BIG10). Without them this is a league that can't compete monetarily, period.
Now I would be enthusiastic about going to the Big12 if it had all the schools in it that were there when we were in the league. I'd love to play the bugs every year. Obviously now it's not exciting at all...except the money will keep CU in the game. "Where there's life there's hope" as my dad used to say. Who knows what offers or changes there may be in the future of college football...but you have to be a desireable program to be in that game...and the Pac12 schools are on a slow (or maybe not so slow) slide to irrelevency due to the finances.
If some TV deal materializes in the next few weeks to prove me wrong...fantasic. Happy to stay. I live in Pac-12 country so that suits me. But we can't fall so far behind in the money stakes that we crater the long-term chances of the program. 21st century college football is a financial arms race and if we can't keep up we will be caught in a spiral that dooms us...both in the short term...and when future reallignment occurs. If Kliavkoff can't deliver $30 million per school I don't see we have much of a choice. It's not a question of what we would prefer.
Now I would be enthusiastic about going to the Big12 if it had all the schools in it that were there when we were in the league. I'd love to play the bugs every year. Obviously now it's not exciting at all...except the money will keep CU in the game. "Where there's life there's hope" as my dad used to say. Who knows what offers or changes there may be in the future of college football...but you have to be a desireable program to be in that game...and the Pac12 schools are on a slow (or maybe not so slow) slide to irrelevency due to the finances.
If some TV deal materializes in the next few weeks to prove me wrong...fantasic. Happy to stay. I live in Pac-12 country so that suits me. But we can't fall so far behind in the money stakes that we crater the long-term chances of the program. 21st century college football is a financial arms race and if we can't keep up we will be caught in a spiral that dooms us...both in the short term...and when future reallignment occurs. If Kliavkoff can't deliver $30 million per school I don't see we have much of a choice. It's not a question of what we would prefer.
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Big Jim
WTF?
Well said, a very concise description of moving to the B12.
FLounder
Think Positive and life will be Positive.
Thanks. We dont know that the Pac is done until were told that it is. Or until more teams bolt.
I still see brands in the conference that are appealing and people will tune in and watch. The TV people also need inventory for viewers too. So someone will pay us something for that content. It just might not be what we want and thats the sticking point.
You dont say
On Miami, of the 4 mNCs they won in the 80s and early 90s that Erickson team was weaker then the previous three teams. Don James had a machine by then at UW.
The disrespect here for Don James is wild. He has arguably the most prolific coaching tree of all time.
To think we had him here under crowder and let him leave is max pain.
and another day and still no one knows ****.
when we start taking advice from schools on the island of misfit toys about how to punch our way out of this, that will be the day my joy ends.
gird your loins and such. at least we have options. hell, it sounds like uw wants the big or nothing and they do not appear to be getting the big invite soon. if we have to serve time in the penal colony of the b12 before our ultimate redemption, so be it. until the ink is dry, i am still going to assume CU wants to be in a conference featuring byu, kjuco st, baylor, and west ****ing Virginia about as much as i do.
It’s not a direct selling point, but when you play down there every couple years and UCF comes to Colorado to play and is involved with a conference that Colorado is competing in, it raises the profile/awareness of Colorado in the state.
Same argument for the Pac 12 adding SMU or SDSU, to get into Texas and get BACK into SoCal.
1989Buff
62-36
Nope. But I see your point.