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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

I’d like the U of A to join the B12 and if that’s the end of it, then I’m good with 14. Utah looks content to screw itself and ASU is trash all around and nobody needs them. Thousands and thousands of spindly legged underachievers walking around in 115 degree summer heat with blank looks on their faces and cheap Sparky backpacks. Zzzzz…….
 
in the event that Congress does get involved, this could become relevant. Looks like the Bay Area schools would have some advocates in the House (note this is 2021 data).


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let's look at just some of the **** that will hit the fan:

if oregon and washington leave wsu and osu...

if cal takes less money than ucla...

and so forth.

this doj is also quite concerned with market power and consolidation. how many teams from disparate regions banded together = a cartel?

everybody gonna sue everybody.

at this point, i am here for it.
 
hokiehead said:
in the event that Congress does get involved, this could become relevant. Looks like the Bay Area schools would have some advocates in the House (note this is 2021 data).


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4 senators from BYU surprised me. Unsurprisingly, both Utah senators Lee and Romney have degrees from BYU. Mike Crapo from Idaho is also not overly surprising. But Kyrsten Sinema being a BYU grad is very surprising.
 
Hugegroove said:
Wish I could have seen the look on those school presidents faces when he made the presentation. Unless they fire him I Can't imagine any of them stay on.

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There's nobody they can hire who can change the conference's valuation. I mean, besides manipulating Elon Musk into a ridiculous dick-measuring contest and thereby tricking him into overpaying for an asset . . . hey, wait a second.
 
I don't understand the legal basis for a 16 team conference being fine but a 20 team conference being predatory or something.

The Pac has had many membership changes and expansion in its history. Just 12 years ago, it tried to kill the Big 12 by taking CU, OU, UT and aTm but couldn't pull it off. Just in the past 12 months, the Pac-12 tried again and even issued a statement that they might go expansion hunting with Big 12 schools (after its desperate attempt to rekindle Bowlsby's merger idea was quickly and soundly rejected by Yormark).

Somehow you were wronged if there is a standard practice within the Association of which you are a member, you have fully and aggressively engaged in the practice, and in the latest round you lost when every previous time you won? GMAFB.
 
torero said:
4 senators from BYU surprised me. Unsurprisingly, both Utah senators Lee and Romney have degrees from BYU. Mike Crapo from Idaho is also not overly surprising. But Kyrsten Sinema being a BYU grad is very surprising.
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Sinema grew up LDS. I think she might have drifted away from it later if I remember correctly.
 
PAHIBuff said:
I’d like the U of A to join the B12 and if that’s the end of it, then I’m good with 14. Utah looks content to screw itself and ASU is trash all around and nobody needs them. Thousands and thousands of spindly legged underachievers walking around in 115 degree summer heat with blank looks on their faces and cheap Sparky backpacks. Zzzzz…….
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I'm good with this. Don't care what ASU does. Utah? I'd rather take Oregon State or WSU.
 
Buffnik said:
I don't understand the legal basis for a 16 team conference being fine but a 20 team conference being predatory or something.

The Pac has had many membership changes and expansion in its history. Just 12 years ago, it tried to kill the Big 12 by taking CU, OU, UT and aTm but couldn't pull it off. Just in the past 12 months, the Pac-12 tried again and even issued a statement that they might go expansion hunting with Big 12 schools (after its desperate attempt to rekindle Bowlsby's merger idea was quickly and soundly rejected by Yormark).

Somehow you were wronged if there is a standard practice within the Association of which you are a member, you have fully and aggressively engaged in the practice, and in the latest round you lost when every previous time you won? GMAFB.
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there is plenty of precedent for various organizing bodies to get sued in college sports.

how big is too big is going to be a prime issue. and remember how many various aggrieved parties there are going to be. you think the pac is going to just say "ok cool big take anyone you want." you think wsu and osu and their state legislatures are? you think the poaching and double dealing by the networks and the big will go unnoticed by the doj and by congress? and if this is the consolidation of power on the backs of unpaid players, think that will be ignored? the sec is actually on higher ground than the big. their expansions have been rational and targeted. big gets "too" big and the **** hits the fan. i am not sure how big is too big.

watch.
 
PAHIBuff said:
Sinema grew up LDS. I think she might have drifted away from it later if I remember correctly.
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drifted? more like ran as fast and as far as possible by supporting all LBGT+ rights along with being an athiest.

Good for her.
 
steviet said:
Probably difficult to remain a devout Mormon when you’re gay…..
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I’m on her e-newsletter list because she really does know a lot about Arizona issues and truly doesn’t give a flip about her popularity. We’ll see where it all goes in 2024. One of about 5 or so Senators that are actually interesting people.
 
PAHIBuff said:
Sinema grew up LDS. I think she might have drifted away from it later if I remember correctly.
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I learned today she grew up LDS. Being the only openly non-religious senator is why it surprised me, regardless of her sexual preference.
 
PAHIBuff said:
I’m on her e-newsletter list because she really does know a lot about Arizona issues and truly doesn’t give a flip about her popularity. We’ll see where it all goes in 2024. One of about 5 or so Senators that are actually interesting people.
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I’ve read a few very unflattering pieces on her that have said just the opposite - that she has been angling for a Presidential run since she started and doesn’t care who she steps on to get there. I also read she might run as an independent if she loses the primary (which she will), thus ensuring a republican pickup in the Senate.
 
PAHIBuff said:
I’d like the U of A to join the B12 and if that’s the end of it, then I’m good with 14. Utah looks content to screw itself and ASU is trash all around and nobody needs them. Thousands and thousands of spindly legged underachievers walking around in 115 degree summer heat with blank looks on their faces and cheap Sparky backpacks. Zzzzz…….
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ASU would provide a good location for road games. I like the Phoenix/Tempe area in the Fall/winter.
 
Liver said:
there is plenty of precedent for various organizing bodies to get sued in college sports.

how big is too big is going to be a prime issue. and remember how many various aggrieved parties there are going to be. you think the pac is going to just say "ok cool big take anyone you want." you think wsu and osu and their state legislatures are? you think the poaching and double dealing by the networks and the big will go unnoticed by the doj and by congress? and if this is the consolidation of power on the backs of unpaid players, think that will be ignored? the sec is actually on higher ground than the big. their expansions have been rational and targeted. big gets "too" big and the **** hits the fan. i am not sure how big is too big.

watch.
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SWC teams left behind didn't sue. OSU & TX teams didn't sue. Big East left-behinds didn't sue.

I think Beavs & Cougs to the MWC will end up being the only schools that don't financially benefit from the upcoming realignment. So what exactly is the issue?
 
Buffnik said:
SWC teams left behind didn't sue. OSU & TX teams didn't sue. Big East left-behinds didn't sue.

I think Beavs & Cougs to the MWC will end up being the only schools that don't financially benefit from the upcoming realignment. So what exactly is the issue?
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Big East left-behinds did sue the ACC, actually. That lawsuit was instrumental in VT getting an invite.
 
Buffnik said:
SWC teams left behind didn't sue. OSU & TX teams didn't sue. Big East left-behinds didn't sue.

I think Beavs & Cougs to the MWC will end up being the only schools that don't financially benefit from the upcoming realignment. So what exactly is the issue?
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swc was an entirely different thing and time. big east there was litigation.

who is going to sue? DOJ for one.

are we over the threshold yet? i dunno. but, i know for sure that the big is thinking about this very issue and it is playing a role in what they do next.

i mentioned a few of the aggrieved parties. there are many many more, of course. hell, there is so much duplicity and bad faith going around, it is easier to list who can't sue rather than who can.

sec is in the cat bird seat in my view.
 
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