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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
- Thread starter InTheBuff
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Who dis? New phone.
You are correct here, and I'm not sure the DU model could be repeated many places.
To start with they don't have football but they make as much off hockey as a lot of FCS type schools or even lower end G5 schools make off football.
Secondly they are very successful at a limited number of sports that they have targeted. Those sports for the most part aren't sports that other schools throw a lot of money at making competing an expensive proposition.
Gymnastics requires a small number of scholarships and with a small squad travel expenses are reduced. Big bonus as you say is that they generate some decent revenues from it while many of the schools they compete against generate much less.
Lacrosse, and skiing are sports with a limited number of other schools competing and the majority of those schools aren't dumping big budgets into them. A good portion of those schools are private or academically oriented public where buying wins is a priority. Soccer to an extent fits this description.
The other non-revenue sports that do tend to have big money competition DU either doesn't compete in (Baseball/Softball, Wrestling, Track and field) or they are fine with being non-competitive or competing at a lower level like Men's and Women's Basketball.
Managed well college sports can be a highly effective public face for colleges and universities. Lose the handle on what is an appropriate level of commitment and investment in sports and they can become a very expensive detriment to the mission of the school.
As college football (and likely eventually college basketball) continues to push towards a pro model with the money and the power in the hands of a limited number of high profile programs it is going to be more and more difficult for a lot of schools to justify what they are putting into them.
I could see a lot of schools simply choosing to scale down be it club level or more along the lines of what we see in D2 or FCS now.
Fred 2
steaming service
Yes you are an idiot! ft fun cares more about the rams than boulder cares about cu! Fact! The city does not embrace university and sees it as a hindrance.
Big Jim
WTF?
Hmmm. Interesting that CSU averaged 26,500 fans per home game in 2023 or 73% of stadium capacity. CU averaged 53,000+ at 106% of capacity. I can see your point here that the Rams have better fan support. Yep, makes complete sense. Of course, if that is a problem, I'm sure the CSU HC's wife can speak up for him and explain the situation.
2023 FBS Attendance Trends | D1 ticker
A look at FBS attendance for the 2023 season compared to year-over-year and five-year-over-year averages. | Data through Week 13.
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Wait. You said Boulder could care less. So could they or not?
Fred 2 knows that what he is posting is idiotic, he's a troll and has managed to get some posters here to engage.Hmmm. Interesting that CSU averaged 26,500 fans per home game in 2023 or 73% of stadium capacity. CU averaged 53,000+ at 106% of capacity. I can see your point here that the Rams have better fan support. Yep, makes complete sense. Of course, if that is a problem, I'm sure the CSU HC's wife can speak up for him and explain the situation.
2023 FBS Attendance Trends | D1 ticker
A look at FBS attendance for the 2023 season compared to year-over-year and five-year-over-year averages. | Data through Week 13.
Anyone who tries to compare CSU to CU on a basis of football programs assuming they are even comparable is an envious idiot. One program plays at the highest level, the other is a below average MWC team. One had among the nations highest number of TV viewers last year, the other is lucky to get a Thursday night game on ESPN8.
One sold out season tickets in a 53,000 seat stadium, the other not only averages less than half of that but look at the games as the season rolls along and the fans have given up knowing that they aren't going to beat big brother (again) and not matter in any other way and they are lucky to have 15,000 actual fans in the stadium.
Fred, it’s been a long time since CU and Boulder haven’t mutually depended upon one another. It’s a settled peace with some happiness mixed in. You need to find another contrast. Ft. Fun and CSU are boring to the world and to each other.
Well that’s only if you don’t account for population; according to the US Census, the population estimate for 2022 for Boulder was 106K, whereas Fort Collins had fewer people with an estimated population of 169K.Hmmm. Interesting that CSU averaged 26,500 fans per home game in 2023 or 73% of stadium capacity. CU averaged 53,000+ at 106% of capacity. I can see your point here that the Rams have better fan support. Yep, makes complete sense. Of course, if that is a problem, I'm sure the CSU HC's wife can speak up for him and explain the situation.
2023 FBS Attendance Trends | D1 ticker
A look at FBS attendance for the 2023 season compared to year-over-year and five-year-over-year averages. | Data through Week 13.
Wait.
Some are there just hoping to hear some Lady Gaga songs.
Article is behind a paywall but I don't believe this for a second
Lol oh hell yes; there is no way that either of those conferences is taking both. That opens up another seat.
Unless there are some really powerful politicians in NC who have lots of control over the state education budget purse strings and those politicians are NC State alums, there is simply no way this is true.
No to autobids
Big Jim
WTF?
2 for B12 is 100% better than I expected.
3 AQ for a conference is soooo lame. That's the only reason for 14. 12 is the right number for a playoff.
That format is 100% a massive win for Big 12 and ACC and irrelevant for B1G and SEC.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
The number feels like 50 between the super leagues. I think the Big 12s emphasis on basketball likely keeps it at the table to an extent if we're stuck here after the ACC collapses.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Let's see what happens if they go 9-3 in 2024. Games against Vanderbilt for Alabama serve a purpose. Same thing that games against Baylor (who if we're honest is awful right now) will do for CU.
The conference sent them up here as CUs league opener for a reason.