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CU officially hires Mel Tucker as new Head Football Coach
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BatBuff
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Eliot hasn’t been that bad. He was just a bad hire in the first place.
b3buffs
Well-Known Member
Not only this but is West Coast recruiting really needing to be a top priority? I get it is important but the rest of the Pac12 is doing it and the conference as whole is not doing so well on the field with these recruits.
This is another reason that we have to have a smart OOC schedule, and we are in great shape with the Georgia Tech game coming up!!! Nebraska and Colorado State are albatrosses around our necks! Cute little rivalry games that provide us with absolutely no recruiting value. Swap them out for more games against schools like Vanderbilt or other decent SEC or ACC opponents to create challenging but winnable Southeast games.
what really makes me feel good about this hire - Reading about Coach Mel, he has lsu, tosu, alabama, georgia, the nfl all in his past. That is some serious programs to be involved with. Like I read earlier in another thread by one of You AllBuffers - his resume looks way better than HCMM and the great HCBM when they were hired.
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
Swap out the Nebraska game? You can just stop talking now; you’ve lost all credibility.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
UGA base D. He will not have this versatility at CU until he gets better personnel suited to the 3-4.
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“I see here you allowed a run first quarterback to set an FBS record for rushing yards as a QB after coming in as a backup. That same run first quarterback then proceeded to throw on you for 350 yards and 5 td’s the following year. Thank you for your time DJ, I will reach out when a decision has been made.”
ScottyBuff
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I can see them keeping a few of the staff that are under contract as a way to save money and bring some continuity to the team; as this will also help pay for increase comp for a new OC, etc.
Bernardi is not under contract next year so no conversation needed.
The ones that are: Chev, Adams, and Drew Wilson all are signed thru 2020; so this is why keeping Chev on staff makes sense both financially and from recruiting pipeline standpoint. That doesn't mean he stays as the OC. Not sure you can make a case for Adams or Wilson as both of their areas were the most glaring weaknesses: so we just have to eat a bigger buyout on them.
Roper as QB coach, Drake at DL should get consideration; Brown and Ambrose depends alot on how they fit with Tucker (a former DB and DB coach before getting promoted to DC) recruiting process, and his scheme.
Tucker should already know what to do with Eliot as they both coached in the SEC for at least 2 years together; 2015-2016 (Tucker at Bama/UGA and Eliot at Kentucky) and James Coley (Georgia's Co-OC) worked with Eliot on the same staff at Florida State under Jimbo Fisher.
Hagan will be interesting as he is a Buff legacy and has survived several staffs now. If they find a role for him might depend upon how he adapts to HCMT's recruiting vision/process more than anything else.
Bernardi is not under contract next year so no conversation needed.
The ones that are: Chev, Adams, and Drew Wilson all are signed thru 2020; so this is why keeping Chev on staff makes sense both financially and from recruiting pipeline standpoint. That doesn't mean he stays as the OC. Not sure you can make a case for Adams or Wilson as both of their areas were the most glaring weaknesses: so we just have to eat a bigger buyout on them.
Roper as QB coach, Drake at DL should get consideration; Brown and Ambrose depends alot on how they fit with Tucker (a former DB and DB coach before getting promoted to DC) recruiting process, and his scheme.
Tucker should already know what to do with Eliot as they both coached in the SEC for at least 2 years together; 2015-2016 (Tucker at Bama/UGA and Eliot at Kentucky) and James Coley (Georgia's Co-OC) worked with Eliot on the same staff at Florida State under Jimbo Fisher.
Hagan will be interesting as he is a Buff legacy and has survived several staffs now. If they find a role for him might depend upon how he adapts to HCMT's recruiting vision/process more than anything else.
I actually think the two easiest decisions for Tucker are to get rid of Bernardi and Hagan. Those are two positions that are recruiting dominated and should be easy to upgrade. If you put together a list of those you would like to keep in order I think it goes.
1. Chev (WR coach only)
2. Drake
3. Roper
4. Els
5. Brown
6. Ambrose
7. Eliot
8. Adams
9. Hagan
10. Bernardi
1. Chev (WR coach only)
2. Drake
3. Roper
4. Els
5. Brown
6. Ambrose
7. Eliot
8. Adams
9. Hagan
10. Bernardi
It's about the coaches more than its about the facilities. It's about the player becoming convinced that this guy is the best path for me to the NFL. The right guy puts us potentially back in that game again.
Back then McCartney capitalized on the fact that UTexas, Texas A&M, USC, and to a lessor degree UCLA were all going on a decade of being seriously mediocre.
Neu could recruit, no doubt, but my god he stunk on Saturdays sometimes. Also, for a QB coach he was pretty bad developing the QBs he recruited and instead relied on Detmer (McCartney), Hessler (local kid), and Moschetti (JC transfer). You could see the cracks in the facade when McCartneys kids had all graduated...
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
His teams also lacked discipline, way too many penalties. Even in the 10 win season, the team under-performed.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Uhhh yes it is. When this thing is really rolling, we're getting talent out of TX/LA, California, and the islands (Washington right now dominates recruiting in the state of Hawaii). If Tucker or whoever he might bring from UGA out here (heard Dan Lanning as a possibility) can leverage their connections to get a couple kids out of the southeast a cycle, great-but that can't be a priority.
Hagan (and this is a guess) would shift to within another role in the AD. Roper coached at South Carolina before coming here-I'd think MT knows him and would have an idea with what he'd want to do with him.........I think we're all fine with Roper as a QB coach, but given the consensus with respect to Chev's position (he needs to move back to WRs/RC)-I'm not sure that makes sense. Bernardi and Adams (who I think RG may have already dumped-he's the only coach on staff who has removed the CU stuff off his twitter page) are obvious. I'd think MT would look to bring in a new S&C guy.
Defensively-I think it just depends on how they all mesh with what Tucker wants to do.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I’d be shocked if we’re paying him $4M. I believe that would make him the 3rd highest paid coach in the league and would put him ahead of Wittingham, Leach, and Chip Kelly. Seems like more than we would need to pay for a first time HC, but we’ll see. My guess is he’s just over $3M per.
I'm not as down on Hagan (or as high on Hagan) as most folks.
In general, I just want the new HC to consider him and others but approach it that there are no sacred cows.
ScottyBuff
Well-Known Member
And that followed him to Washington and UCLA; so proof-positive that it was him.
I hate to live in the past but if ever we could undo a decision on a coach (even Hawkins/Embree) I would undo the Slick Rick as our HC. Who knows, maybe the dynasty would have kept on if Hankwitz or Simmons got the job instead and we never would have had the slide into Hawkins/Embree territory.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Yes and no-with what Oregon has going on, most guys should be able to get enough talent to be consistently bowling there. I also think ours were a liability when we made the conference change, and RG has addressed those already. At this point, you're correct though. Oklahoma was down back then too-Switzer got them into NCAA trouble and they made two bad hires during the 90s in Gibbs and John Blake.
I agree with Your list to the T, except adams shouldn't be on it at all. adams needs to be gone. Maybe keep Hagan in a paper pushing position out of loyalty (if it doesn't effect other hires). bernardi should be in the same car as adams leaving Boulder C Ya.
Hey, be nice to DBT!I'm picturing something more like this
vinniew_11
Well-Known Member
It’s 10am. I’d expect an afternoon announcement
Chev stays on as WR coach, Roper as QB coach, and I wouldn't mind seeing Els stay either. The LB recruiting and coaching has been very good.
The only way I see Roper staying as QB coach is if Tucker is somehow able to bring McGee from UGA and give him the OC job (unlikely). Otherwise, he has to find an OC that is probably also the QB Coach.
You cannot keep both Roper and Chev while also bringing in a new OC.
Yeah, I'm ok with that. I was more just stating what I would like to see and who I feel has earned the right to stick around.
The love for Drake confuses me. He seems like a great guy and decent coach, but our DL recruiting this year sucks.
Wouldn't you agree the only way would be if he brought Dell McGee, since he'd also handle RBs?
You can, but it would require some tinkering, I agree. Not advocating that all of these guys should be on the next staff necessarily, just which parts might make sense.