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Dan Hawkins might have a new HC job
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Deleted member 807
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Those Bobcats better get their claws out.
The Wiki entry for Texas State is enlightening. Only university in Texas to issue a batchelors degree to a US president. 55th largest student population in the US. Fabulous access to an outlet shopping mall.
Bienemy4life
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So close, yet so far D II....http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5996265
badfish650
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I am holding out hope that Hawk lands a Pac 12 coaching gig.
Dan Hawkins is like the useless geek lots of the cute girls liked in school. He pays attention to the right people, says stuff to make them feel better about themselves, and is just goofy enough to make them think that they are special. In the end he doesn't accomplish anything and people see him for the sham job he is but by then he has moved on to a different group of suckers. Oh and by the way when he gets his teeth kicked in by the big, bad, bullies they all feel sorry for him and he gets even more attention because he was the civilized one, even though it was his big mouth that started the fight in the first place.
Assistant for Peterson at Stanford, maybe? Or better yet - Peterson to Stanford and Hawk goes back to BSU in some capacity.
I don't know about BSU, he ticked off a lot of people when he left and a lot of others seemed very glad to see him go. Don't think that there are a lot of people there who would want him back. It also would be pretty awkward to have the ex-HC working for a new HC.
The Stanford idea might make more sense. If Peterson can be successful there and Hawk is a successful coordinator it might put him back in line for a D1 job, probably a non-AQ school but still BCS level.
I was thinking more along the lines of ST or TE coach. Errr, ummmm....
I was thinking the same thing. We have had a disaster for ST for the last 5 years.
Head coaches usually make good special teams coaches since pretty much every coach is involved in coaching special teams and a former HC is used to managing a coaching staff. On that same not, ST Coordinator is a great training ground for a future Head Coach (probably better than OC or DC).
Hawk's idea of special teams was to have Kent Riddle clinic every other special teams coach in the US. Hawk paid absolutely zero attention to special teams, and it showed. I'm a big believer in the value of special teams. Look at the Jets game yesterday. It came down to two things that the Jets did very well - a kickoff return and a field goal. After 59 minutes of evenly matched offensive and defensive football, it was the Jets special teams that won the game. Hawkins was more worried about which of his players had a twinkle in his eye than he was about coaching fundamentaly strong football. I wouldn't want him near any team I had a rooting interest in, especially not as a special teams coordinator.
White_Rabbit
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When it comes to special teams, there's nothing bigger than the little things.
I was making a general point.
It wasn't my intention to dispute the fact that Hawkins licks tapir taint.
All joking aside, Hawk was a pretty respected coach before he got in over his head in Boulder. He won a bunch of games at Boise and didn't have any trouble getting assistant jobs before becoming a HC.
I sure wouldn't want to hire him as a head coach for a major program and his welcome is long gone in Boulder but in the right situation he may turn out to be an asset.
I sure wouldn't want to hire him as a head coach for a major program and his welcome is long gone in Boulder but in the right situation he may turn out to be an asset.
Hawkins is a fraud.
Along the lines of what Nik said, Hawk is a snake oil salesman. I have to admit, I was on board with the hire and he had me fooled. I would think that the experience he had in Boulder will severly limit his opportunities moving forward. Any talk of him becoming a HC is just crazy talk right now.
lawdogg
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Don't know, seems like the jury is still out. While the Hawk never really took flight in Boulder, I still get the sense that, at another school and at another time, he might be effective again. One way or the other, we're free of him now, give or take a couple million dollars, and the future is looking brighter every day.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that Hawk was a fraud, but his approach absolutely was a failure at the BCS level. I do think his "approach" to coaching/recruiting/... could work again at lower level schools. I think he's best suited to a small school, low/no expectations, always an underdog, maybe 1-2 big games a year, where getting 3* recruits is a HUGE accomplishment, minimal admission standards, little to no major media presence.
The worst thing that ever happened to our program under Hawk was Boise beating Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. All it did was to bolster Hawk insistence that his "way" would work in a BCS league. Boise wins, Hawk is now justified, and his hard-headedness screws CU for the next 2-3 years. Oh yeah, then them beating TCU in the Fiesta last year didn't help either...but at least Hawk was one foot out the door at that time.
I agree. But, he is not likely to be forgiven in academic circles for some of his public comments during the scandal. If he had been he'd be getting more interest. It's also possible that he's just chosen to retire and has told his agent to tell anyone that inquires that he's not interested.
verdict: guilty of sucking massive balls