Probably not, but it is one more thing they could have done. Not like it mattered in the end anyway.
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Davis Webb transfers to Cal, spurns CU
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BuffLuke80
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Good point.
Maybe DC was using the sarcasm font???
not shut down QB recruiting? Not lost the kid?
CUFan
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They had a good shot at Webb. DC gave us the shot, so he's in the clear. As Sackman mentioned, in hindsight, they should have asked him to publicly re-commit and not visit Cal - and if Webb wasn't interested, ask him to tear up the financial aid agreement. But even still, a different outcome was unlikely.
What I am more mad about is the failure of MIkeMac and his staff (past and present) in QB recruiting. We missed on too many QBs and it's put us in a precarious situation to say the least. We are dependent on an injured starter and not-ready for prime-time RS Frosh. Ugh.
What I am more mad about is the failure of MIkeMac and his staff (past and present) in QB recruiting. We missed on too many QBs and it's put us in a precarious situation to say the least. We are dependent on an injured starter and not-ready for prime-time RS Frosh. Ugh.
Idot Buff
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Winfree has to be pissed.
And Leavitt and Tumpkin are chopped liver...
Oh and lets completely ignore that your hero Chev had a relationship with Webb that stretched back into several years. And he couldnt close Webb despite that. Uh, huh. Keep talking.....
Thats because its the honeymoon period and people still think hes god. Some have even advocated that he should be selected for HC over Leavitt. GMAFB. Lets see if the offense looks any better before we keep whistling past the graveyard....
Exactly. Year four and MikMac has no real alternative to the guy his predecessor left him, who supplanted everyone else as a true frosh. Halfway through year 1, MikMac was on notice he had no QB's, save Sefo, and he has not brought in the quantity or quality to be competitive at the position in the P12.
Fine, Chev is blameless.
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DiggerBuffs
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I did not say that about Leavitt and Tumpkin. I in fact said otherwise. But recruiting has improved under Chev.
And Chev wasn't the only one selling him. It sounds like MacIntyre may have said something he didn't like. Only Webb can say exactly why he chose Cal over CU. My guess is Mac said he had to beat out Sefo if healthy. Not smart.
Deleted member 807
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I recall wishing some QB's other than Sefo could get some more meaningful snaps during the UMASS, Nichols, ASU, and Stanford games.
The development of backups during games that aren't competitive just makes sense.
I don't understand why CU's RB by committee approach should stand in such stark contrast to over-playing Sefo in games where the outcome of the game has been established by mid 3rd Qtr.
Mop-up duty that is mainly chewing the final 2 minutes off the clock with hand-offs or taking a knee doesn't count for quality back-up time, either.
Back-the-Buffs
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No we are sharpening the knives because of 10-27 and 2-25. And they had a legit chance of improving the most important position on the field and couldn't do it in the end. Play the blame game all you want but MM is the HEAD coach. Everything good and bad falls back on him.
BuffNut99
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Did you want the staff to offer other QBs while obligated to Webb, and when we had no room? The market is/was extremely bare anyway, if you can point out any available QBs out there who are non-Gerkhes, please, enlighten.
"Not lost the kid" doesn't make any sense. The staff had no leverage because of the fin aid agreement. The kid changed his mind.
Not losing the recruiting battle is usually the most important criteria when it comes to must have recruits. As for finding another guy, it's not my job to find them. I bet there were other options besides Webb that were better than "nothing,"
These excuses are terrible.
Literally every one of your takes in this thread have been terrible.
Your still shifting the blame off of Chev here and on to MM.
Are you really saying we should have promised the starting job to a back up from another program who couldn't retake the starting job? And if Webb went 0-4 you'd be beating MM for making such a dumb promise. Don't try to lie me. You know you would. MM could be damned either way. Is damned either way.
Your right that only Webb knows why he made that decision. Cal is the prettier horse. We just don't want to admit it.
Chuck_Schick
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Some good banter in the comments section of the ESPN post.
By your logic he should have already been fired. Why isn't he? Probably because it isn't your decision. And probably because Rick George has taken a different view. It must be frustrating for you.
Sykobuff
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I think many more than him are frustrated. I'd rather have MM win this year and turn it around and not go through another change. But sooner or later, the excuses and poor results have to weigh on RG.
Back-the-Buffs
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It was reported last year that after they lost to Utah that Rick George was "fuming" I don't think he's taken a different view. I think he has chosen to let MM have a shot at it this year being that the team is full of seniors and juniors. I agree MM should have a chance at this year but I also don't excuse or ignore the fact that losing close isn't good enough. The only thing frustrating to me is paying for season tix year after year and not getting to celebrate more wins.
Where is that damn rep button????
DiggerBuffs
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Not at all, because if Webb went 0-4 then I have no doubt Sefo would either. Webb is a better player. Not much, but at least a Win or 2 was my thought.
Cal has had players drafted. He has 3-4* guys to beat out. I hope he doesn't.
I'm with ya there bro.
By all accounts RG is a smart and effective leader. He could've fired him but he just didn't. I'd really like to have drinks with him and ferret some of that out. My sense is that the situation is more complicated than we can know. What I do think I know is that when we hired MM CU was in a horrible place but today things are in far better shape. And the trend up is continuing. Thus it is getting easier for RG to do it. Easier to get interest from other coaches