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Deion Sanders - HC Jackson State

SewallBeach said:
Feels good to be back.


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Colorado and Deion Sanders self-report at least six NCAA rules violations

No cameras have followed a college football program's every move more-so than Colorado since the arrival of Deion Sanders, the vast majority of them edited brilliantly by his oldes
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Listening to all the podcasts:
DNVR
McChesney
Unk
Chico
Dukes
Here is the summary
Prime IS going to be signing a new contract soon
It has taken so long because of so many “unique” details
Colorado in essence is way behind on so many big boy things and Prime has been remaking everything and is asking for everything
Weightroom, medical, equipment, technology, etc
Definitely feels like he will be in the $9-$10-$11M range with lots of incentives and revenue sharing
Those are statements from all those podcasters trying to say as little as possible, but letting some info out

Also, Marshall Faulk appears to be a for sure thing
 
4BienemyTDs said:
Listening to all the podcasts:
DNVR
McChesney
Unk
Chico
Dukes
Here is the summary
Prime IS going to be signing a new contract soon
It has taken so long because of so many “unique” details
Colorado in essence is way behind on so many big boy things and Prime has been remaking everything and is asking for everything
Weightroom, medical, equipment, technology, etc
Definitely feels like he will be in the $9-$10-$11M range with lots of incentives and revenue sharing
Those are statements from all those podcasters trying to say as little as possible, but letting some info out

Also, Marshall Faulk appears to be a for sure thing
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CU really isn’t behind on medical, misc equipment, or weight room tho. If anyone is saying that, it’s pure cap

Money would be much better spent on coaches and recruiting vs eking out an additional 1-3% improvement on any of those items above
 
LesGrossman said:
CU really isn’t behind on medical, misc equipment, or weight room tho. If anyone is saying that, it’s pure cap

Money would be much better spent on coaches and recruiting vs eking out an additional 1-3% improvement on any of those items above
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Comment was about staying current on weight room and workout trends? Agreed we have a lot of great stuff, but since he has all the leverage, maybe there is more innovative stuff they want.

He is the hot chick at a steak and seafood restaurant
 
No NFL team will ever hire Coach Prime, as no grown, professional men will ever be persuaded by his constant preaching, so I hope the Buffs didn’t take it up the ass in the contract negotiations.

I love Coach Prime, and he’s a great recruiter, but he’s mediocre, at best, when it comes to game day duties and it seems like we’re always massively underprepared when we get to the big games (Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska, BYU).

Obviously, we’re much better than we’ve been, but that was with Travis and Shedeur. Coach Prime has a massive amount of room for improvement and him getting paid more than Saban will never allow him to seek that improvement (IMO).

If he can put up similar records with the Buffs without Travis and Shedeur, he’s definitely worth that money. Otherwise, he’s not.
 
JonSergeantMajor said:
No NFL team will ever hire Coach Prime, as no grown, professional men will ever be persuaded by his constant preaching, so I hope the Buffs didn’t take it up the ass in the contract negotiations.

I love Coach Prime, and he’s a great recruiter, but he’s mediocre, at best, when it comes to game day duties and it seems like we’re always massively underprepared when we get to the big games (Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska, BYU).

Obviously, we’re much better than we’ve been, but that was with Travis and Shedeur. Coach Prime has a massive amount of room for improvement and him getting paid more than Saban will never allow him to seek that improvement (IMO).

If he can put up similar records with the Buffs without Travis and Shedeur, he’s definitely worth that money. Otherwise, he’s not.
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100%. We did not win any of our biggest games this year. 9-4 amazing!! Won the games we should win, stoked!! Next step, improve coaching, start to win some big games too.
 
FWIW, Coach Prime on Colbert Late Night show Sunday night, after NFL championship games:
Sunday, Jan. 26 *NEW*

Please note approximate timing for this episode (11:35 PM-12:37 AM, ET 10:35-11:37 PM, CT and MT; 8:35-9:37 PM, PT)

  • Deion Sanders
  • Performance by Kane Brown
 
JonSergeantMajor said:
t he’s mediocre, at best, when it comes to game day duties and it seems like we’re always massively underprepared when we get to the big games (Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska, BYU).
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Worst cherry picking post in years on this board.

Why is one game vs NU a “big game” but the other game that CU won not a “big game”?

Why is the first game out of the gate against TCU, coming off of the national championship game, a game where CU was launched into the national spotlight not a “big game”?

Why is one of the great comback victories in the past decade of college football against a BU team that went 8-5 on the season not a “big game”?

Why is the crushing of the evil UU team that has crushed CU for years not a “big game”?
 
My concern about Prime's approach to spotlight games is that there's too much emphasis on making them a stage for individual players to shine instead of all the game plan focus being on the team getting a win. Hopefully it's just me worrying over a nothing burger, but I worry that we're forcing it too much instead of letting matchups and flow be determining our strategy for winning.
 
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Buffnik said:
My concern about Prime's approach to spotlight games is that there's too much emphasis on making them a stage for individual players to shine instead of all the game plan focus being on the team getting a win. Hopefully it's just me worrying over a nothing burger, but I worry that we're forcing it too much instead of letting matchups and flow determining our strategy for winning.
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I don’t think that was unique to “spotlight” games. I think the plan was always to make sure Travis and Shedeur got their stats. I think the larger issue around the big games, especially at home, was all the pomp and circumstance with celebrities in the locker room and on the sidelines. People talk about USC under Pete Carroll being like that, but those teams had significantly more talent and depth that could easily overcome any issues with distractions. Prime hasn’t recruited well enough to be dominant on talent alone.
 
Both JSM and Big Jim have points here.

For the record, I like very much where CU is going and I hope RG gets an extension in place for CP. He has been out coached at times, the portal method is not perfect (witness the OL), and CU has looked woefully unprepared at times. 13-12 isn't exactly "dominant", if I may borrow CP's stated goal.

I do find it kind of hilarious that beating UU is a big game. EVERYBODY took a big sloppy bite out of UU last year. Which brings me to Bailer, UU beat bailer. 8-5 is nothing to sneeze at but their best win was a late season win over non-bowl game KU. Not exactly world beaters.

CU's best big game wins under CP were TCU (who turned out to be a shadow of the prior year's team, and kNU 1.0). Once tape was out on CP's first year team, it pretty much went south in a hurry.

To his great credit CP has continued to retool the weak points on the team and bringing in Livingston and ramping up the D has worked very well. The OL remains an achilles heel, but recruiting is at a place I never thought we'd see again. I suspect CP has a list of things he sees where he, the staff and the team can improve, and I believe he will. There is nothing wrong with saying it has been a little bumpy so far.

The next couple of years is where we see what we have with CP. I am pretty interested to see what happens post SS2 and THunter.
 
leftybuff said:
Both JSM and Big Jim have points here.

For the record, I like very much where CU is going and I hope RG gets an extension in place for CP. He has been out coached at times, the portal method is not perfect (witness the OL), and CU has looked woefully unprepared at times. 13-12 isn't exactly "dominant", if I may borrow CP's stated goal.

I do find it kind of hilarious that beating UU is a big game. EVERYBODY took a big sloppy bite out of UU last year. Which brings me to Bailer, UU beat bailer. 8-5 is nothing to sneeze at but their best win was a late season win over non-bowl game KU. Not exactly world beaters.

CU's best big game wins under CP were TCU (who turned out to be a shadow of the prior year's team, and kNU 1.0). Once tape was out on CP's first year team, it pretty much went south in a hurry.

To his great credit CP has continued to retool the weak points on the team and bringing in Livingston and ramping up the D has worked very well. The OL remains an achilles heel, but recruiting is at a place I never thought we'd see again. I suspect CP has a list of things he sees where he, the staff and the team can improve, and I believe he will. There is nothing wrong with saying it has been a little bumpy so far.

The next couple of years is where we see what we have with CP. I am pretty interested to see what happens post SS2 and THunter.
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Quit being reasonable!

Don't you know how message boards are supposed to work?
 
leftybuff said:
Both JSM and Big Jim have points here.

For the record, I like very much where CU is going and I hope RG gets an extension in place for CP. He has been out coached at times, the portal method is not perfect (witness the OL), and CU has looked woefully unprepared at times. 13-12 isn't exactly "dominant", if I may borrow CP's stated goal.

I do find it kind of hilarious that beating UU is a big game. EVERYBODY took a big sloppy bite out of UU last year. Which brings me to Bailer, UU beat bailer. 8-5 is nothing to sneeze at but their best win was a late season win over non-bowl game KU. Not exactly world beaters.

CU's best big game wins under CP were TCU (who turned out to be a shadow of the prior year's team, and kNU 1.0). Once tape was out on CP's first year team, it pretty much went south in a hurry.

To his great credit CP has continued to retool the weak points on the team and bringing in Livingston and ramping up the D has worked very well. The OL remains an achilles heel, but recruiting is at a place I never thought we'd see again. I suspect CP has a list of things he sees where he, the staff and the team can improve, and I believe he will. There is nothing wrong with saying it has been a little bumpy so far.

The next couple of years is where we see what we have with CP. I am pretty interested to see what happens post SS2 and THunter.
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Let’s add moving the goal posts to cherry picking.

If CU doesn’t pull off the comeback vs BU then BU goes 7-2 in conference play, tied for first instead of CU. I do not know how the tie breakers work in that scenario but maybe BU is getting a bye week in the playoffs instead of ASU. To poo poo the BU victory is downright deceitful.

Here is the link to the final standings:

www.espn.com

College Football Standings - 2024 Big 12 Conference Standings - ESPN

Visit ESPN for the complete 2024 NCAAF season Big 12 Conference standings. Includes winning percentage, home and away record, and current streak.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

How in the hell does anyone expect CU to be “dominant” within two years of the 2022 season? CU had the worst roster talent in P5 football that season. And you want to knock Coach Prime for utilizing the transfer portal on top of that? Nobody, not one single fan or HC could show a path to sucess this season at CU if high school recruiting was the primary basis for roster building.

I honestly believe some people must go into an emotional tailspin each week when they don’t win the lotto. The bar being used to discount what CU football has done under Coach Prime is impossibly too high, obviously on purpose, for so many people including some CU fans.
 
JMBuffs said:
I hope we lubed up, grabbed our ankles, and took it up the ass willingly. When the most influential coach in the nation falls in your lap you don't look a gift horse in the mouth, you suit up for horse meat straight piped, and you're grateful for it.
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Not sure. Just a hunch. I highly doubt RG is limber enough to bend over and grab his ankles. He could probably bend over and put his hands on his knees though.
 
Big Jim said:
Let’s add moving the goal posts to cherry picking.

If CU doesn’t pull off the comeback vs BU then BU goes 7-2 in conference play, tied for first instead of CU. I do not know how the tie breakers work in that scenario but maybe BU is getting a bye week in the playoffs instead of ASU. To poo poo the BU victory is downright deceitful.

Here is the link to the final standings:

www.espn.com

College Football Standings - 2024 Big 12 Conference Standings - ESPN

Visit ESPN for the complete 2024 NCAAF season Big 12 Conference standings. Includes winning percentage, home and away record, and current streak.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

How in the hell does anyone expect CU to be “dominant” within two years of the 2022 season? CU had the worst roster talent in P5 football that season. And you want to knock Coach Prime for utilizing the transfer portal on top of that? Nobody, not one single fan or HC could show a path to sucess this season at CU if high school recruiting was the primary basis for roster building.

I honestly believe some people must go into an emotional tailspin each week when they don’t win the lotto. The bar being used to discount what CU football has done under Coach Prime is impossibly too high, obviously on purpose, for so many people including some CU fans.
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Hmm, deceitful. I am deceitful by expressing the opinion beating a pedestrian bailer team is not a "big game". Exactly who am I deceiving?

I merely said 13-12 isn't dominant. That is true by any standard. That is the goal, he hasn't met it. That too, is true. I don't recall saying dominance had to be achieved by year two, just that CU isn't there. Also true. I said the portal approach isn't perfect, in that it has not yielded a solid OL, also true.

I said I support CP, where he is going and that I expect the improvement to continue. Get a grip.
 
leftybuff said:
Both JSM and Big Jim have points here.

For the record, I like very much where CU is going and I hope RG gets an extension in place for CP. He has been out coached at times, the portal method is not perfect (witness the OL), and CU has looked woefully unprepared at times. 13-12 isn't exactly "dominant", if I may borrow CP's stated goal.

I do find it kind of hilarious that beating UU is a big game. EVERYBODY took a big sloppy bite out of UU last year. Which brings me to Bailer, UU beat bailer. 8-5 is nothing to sneeze at but their best win was a late season win over non-bowl game KU. Not exactly world beaters.

CU's best big game wins under CP were TCU (who turned out to be a shadow of the prior year's team, and kNU 1.0). Once tape was out on CP's first year team, it pretty much went south in a hurry.

To his great credit CP has continued to retool the weak points on the team and bringing in Livingston and ramping up the D has worked very well. The OL remains an achilles heel, but recruiting is at a place I never thought we'd see again. I suspect CP has a list of things he sees where he, the staff and the team can improve, and I believe he will. There is nothing wrong with saying it has been a little bumpy so far.

The next couple of years is where we see what we have with CP. I am pretty interested to see what happens post SS2 and THunter.
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Texas Tech victory was a good win this past season.
Buffs on the road dodging tortillas all game long was a challenge.
 
leftybuff said:
Hmm, deceitful. I am deceitful by expressing the opinion beating a pedestrian bailer team is not a "big game". Exactly who am I deceiving?

I merely said 13-12 isn't dominant. That is true by any standard. That is the goal, he hasn't met it. That too, is true. I don't recall saying dominance had to be achieved by year two, just that CU isn't there. Also true. I said the portal approach isn't perfect, in that it has not yielded a solid OL, also true.

I said I support CP, where he is going and that I expect the improvement to continue. Get a grip.
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48-21 CU over UCF on a road game in Florida
34-7 win at Arizona
41-27 win at Texas Tech
49-24 over Utah
52-0 over Oklahoma State


Please share with us the last time CU was this dominant in the past 23 years.
 
leftybuff said:
2016
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Essentially the same record and same number of big margin wins. Yet you say 2024 wasn't dominant so by your standards 2016 cannot be either.

Now, since you've put the lack of dominance sqauare on Coach Prime for 2024 then I'm feeling confident that you will put the proof of dominance for 2016 square on Coach MacIntyre. I've now got a better idea of your perspective.
 
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