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Does CU have the right personnel for the 3-4?

hawg1

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If the C can can handle the NT 1:1 (as has happened in at least two games), the Gs get unimpeded paths to the second level, especially the G on the weak side. UDub checked to this play time after time. Exploitable weakness.

Repeat, does CU have the right personnel to run the 3-4 this year?
 
If the C can can handle the NT 1:1 (as has happened in at least two games), the Gs get unimpeded paths to the second level, especially the G on the weak side. UDub checked to this play time after time. Exploitable weakness.

Repeat, does CU have the right personnel to run the 3-4 this year?

Well obviously we don't have "Alabama" type skill on the interior D line so I'm guessing it's Lindgren's fault.
 
Edwards is clearly not as good as Tupou, and it's an issue. I don't know if it's an experience, drive, or conditioning problem.
 
It's not a schematic issue, it's a personnel issue. I don't think this comes as a major surprise that there's been a dropoff in our interior 3 DL. We still held up pretty well against one of the best offenses in the country, until our D kept getting put back out there.
 
Edwards plays too high. UW saw this and exploited it. Until he actually uses his size / strength correctly, it will be a problem.

The one time I saw him try to play low, he got mud holed right into the turf. I think he is the epitome of "always been bigger / stronger" and never had to work at it.
 
This year's defense held up much better against UW than last year's team did. There is still work to be done, mostly in recruiting. Also, it's OK to acknowledge that UW is a CFP caliber team and CU is not. I get the "no moral victories" thing, but CU is nowhere near as talented as UW across the board, but most notably in the trenches, so to use the UW game as the measuring stick for questioning CU's front 7 personnel is a little :rolleyes:
 
This year's defense held up much better against UW than last year's team did. There is still work to be done, mostly in recruiting. Also, it's OK to acknowledge that UW is a CFP caliber team and CU is not. I get the "no moral victories" thing, but CU is nowhere near as talented as UW across the board, but most notably in the trenches, so to use the UW game as the measuring stick for questioning CU's front 7 personnel is a little :rolleyes:
Don't disagree with anything you said. But is the personnel on this team right for the 3-4?
 
Don't disagree with anything you said. But is the personnel on this team right for the 3-4?
Yes, and the point of my post is to say that you will see the personnel fits the scheme "better" when we aren't playing CFP-level opponents.
 
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Washington ranks 10th in the conference in Total offense and they have played a pretty easy OCC schedule. We will see better offenses.
 
Don't disagree with anything you said. But is the personnel on this team right for the 3-4?
Yes and no. With some of the upperclassmen, they were recruited for a 4-3. Franke, Coleman, Mathewes, others. But with the JUCOs and guys who are 3rd year or less who were prep recruits this was the system they were recruited to play in.
 
Maybe because Edwards is a junior with less than a year in the program and Tupou was a fifth year senior. Just a thought.
Jordan Carrell was a complete JAG as a Junior. Witherspoon was a liability as a Junior. Both were NFL caliber players as Seniors. Again, fan expectations for JUCO kids remain far too high in their first year in the program.

Edit: But I will add that it shows you how poor recruiting has been that we have to start two JUCO kids (Javier and Mulumba) in year one. Especially when one has a conditioning and weight issue and the other is relatively new to football.
 
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Our personnel is good enough to beat most of the teams on our schedule. It's not as binary as its being made out to be. UW is a good team. A 4-3 wouldn't have changed anything in that game.
 
Our personnel is good enough to beat most of the teams on our schedule. It's not as binary as its being made out to be. UW is a good team. A 4-3 wouldn't have changed anything in that game.
Binary had to look that up for context "limited risk" for the OOC yes PAC 12 = we're screwed. To the OP & let's call it what it is no & no. To reach 7-8 wins this year will fall on the shoulders of the offense..jmo.
 
Not at NT. They have the size there but not the technique. I like jackson but malumba's position needs serious upgrade.

Our LB's need to be bigger and quicker ( I know duh right?)

Mac hasn't looked as good last year, gamboa, to slow.I like lewis and hope callier and sparaco can bring it and improve throughout the season.

This defense doesn't get anywhere near the pressure and sacks last years team did to this point, which is expected with so many guys graduating, leaving etc. .

Due to this post resembling one of MTN buffs war and peace rants, I must close.
 
I'd go a step further to Scheckler's post and say that Chris Petersen is one of the top offensive minds in football, and has a very experienced and bright QB this year. Notice we did not bring the blitz pressure that we normally can dial up. Petersen make a living on counter-punching to blitzes.
 
Jordan Carrell was a complete JAG as a Junior. Witherspoon was a liability as a Junior. Both were NFL caliber players as Seniors. Again, fan expectations for JUCO kids remain far too high in their first year in the program.

Edit: But I will add that it shows you how poor recruiting has been that we have to start two JUCO kids (Javier and Mulumba) in year one. Especially when one has a conditioning and weight issue and the other is relatively new to football.

Which makes it all the more laughable people were actually lauding the JUCO-heavy strategy of DL recruiting this offseason, not to mention our "depth" on the DL.:ROFLMAO::confused:
 
Which makes it all the more laughable people were actually lauding the JUCO-heavy strategy of DL recruiting this offseason, not to mention our "depth" on the DL.:ROFLMAO::confused:
If they were able to land 2-3 guys like Carrell, Edwards, Mulumba, etc. every single year (and they all worked out), it would work in theory, but it's probably not sustainable.
 
Which makes it all the more laughable people were actually lauding the JUCO-heavy strategy of DL recruiting this offseason, not to mention our "depth" on the DL.:ROFLMAO::confused:
I wouldn't exactly say laughable but the expectations created by the "he weighs 300+lbs so.." thought pattern and there ya go and is made further believable during Spring & Fall ball knowing no one knows any different . Almost like the ice cream man dressed in white with goodies that's all out of your favorite...expectation with zero chance of reward.
 
If they were able to land 2-3 guys like Carrell, Edwards, Mulumba, etc. every single year (and they all worked out), it would work in theory, but it's probably not sustainable.
Ya think? Other than Carrell...we've got diddly. There's about 5 Buffs playing D right now at a P12 level & only Carrell comes close to being one of them.
 
Ya think? Other than Carrell...we've got diddly. There's about 5 Buffs playing D right now at a P12 level & only Carrell comes close to being one of them.
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