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Fearless predictions for CU's 2018 season

And thus you missed the point.

We are talking about being a leader and taking that role is something you earn. That has not happened apparently.
Oh I got your point but apparently you missed the tongue in cheek nature of my comment.

But since we’re here. Are you suggesting that successful leadershIp and self-aggrandizing behavior are mutually exclusive? I think there are a lot of examples to the contrary.
 
Oh I got your point but apparently you missed the tongue in cheek nature of my comment.

But since we’re here. Are you suggesting that successful leadershIp and self-aggrandizing behavior are mutually exclusive? I think there are a lot of examples to the contrary.
Every example you would offer would be successful leaders who had already earned that stature prior to the self-aggrandizing.

And there was no indication of tongue in cheek.
 
Buy a bunch of Buff gear this year. Saw the Celtics with the "GE" logo on their unis, Milwalkee with "Harley". Couple of years from now you'll be advertising for Coors or some oil company, when you wear your Buff shirt or hat. I never liked wearing stuff with Nike's swoosh and this will be much worse. Sure cheapens the product in my mind. Do the pro teams really need this extra cash?
 
Buy a bunch of Buff gear this year. Saw the Celtics with the "GE" logo on their unis, Milwalkee with "Harley". Couple of years from now you'll be advertising for Coors or some oil company, when you wear your Buff shirt or hat. I never liked wearing stuff with Nike's swoosh and this will be much worse. Sure cheapens the product in my mind. Do the pro teams really need this extra cash?
The Nike Swoosh actually makes the product more expensive!
 
Buy a bunch of Buff gear this year. Saw the Celtics with the "GE" logo on their unis, Milwalkee with "Harley". Couple of years from now you'll be advertising for Coors or some oil company, when you wear your Buff shirt or hat. I never liked wearing stuff with Nike's swoosh and this will be much worse. Sure cheapens the product in my mind. Do the pro teams really need this extra cash?
ROFL...
We done passed the needed amount of cash in pro sports by about a factor of 1,000
 
What's up with the Montez dislike? I thought he was fine last year. Not a world beater by any means, but did a lot of things right. I'm a fan and I'll also add he has plenty of room to grow (I don't think he was perfect). I think with the year of experience and a full time QB coach he could be in the top third of Pac 12 QBs this season. If he gets the mental aspect down he has the physical tools to be excellent.

As to the Montez skepticism here, with the fact that he's had zero coaching at CU up
to now, keep in mind that this is the same message board that loves to rip Josh Allen.
And frankly, many of whom were in love with Dan Hawkins for two years too long...Allbuffs is fun and a great place to visit, but I wouldn't put a lot on the talent evaluation here. If Montez had a higher profile in high school
and been able to go to a program with a better coaching staff he'd be quite a bit ahead of where he's at now. Hopefully Roper helps him out. I'm optimistic about that.
 
As to the Montez skepticism here, with the fact that he's had zero coaching at CU up
to now, keep in mind that this is the same message board that loves to rip Josh Allen.
And frankly, many of whom were in love with Dan Hawkins for two years too long...Allbuffs is fun and a great place to visit, but I wouldn't put a lot on the talent evaluation here. If Montez had a higher profile in high school
and been able to go to a program with a better coaching staff he'd be quite a bit ahead of where he's at now. Hopefully Roper helps him out. I'm optimistic about that.
Yeah, cause Montez has done so much as a leader and player during his time here to warrant unwavering loyalty from the fanbase...
 
I think Steven has a massive upside, in case my previous rambling post didn't convey that. Can't believe he sat on the bench for a few of the games that Sefo started. But then, it's the MM era....
 
Just talking raw potential/talent.....
We’ve seen flashes of the potential over the last two years and we all hope some different coaching helps take him to the next level, but that doesn’t mean the evaluation of his game by people here is incorrect. He’s been very mediocre for the majority of his playing career at CU.
 
Sometimes geography is destiny. Imagine what Montez's recruiting profile and destination would have been in terms of interest and development if he'd have gone to high school in Ohio or Pennsylvania rather than in El Paso.
Again, I'm optimistic that the new coach gets his potential realized. He's not that far off.
 
Sometimes geography is destiny. Imagine what Montez's recruiting profile and destination would have been in terms of interest and development if he'd have gone to high school in Ohio or Pennsylvania rather than in El Paso.
Again, I'm optimistic that the new coach gets his potential realized. He's not that far off.
Ty Evans has scholarship offers from multiple big time programs and he goes to a 3A high school in Monument, CO. Kids get overlooked all the time but there’s no need to create excuses.
 
As to the Montez skepticism here, with the fact that he's had zero coaching at CU up
to now, keep in mind that this is the same message board that loves to rip Josh Allen.
And frankly, many of whom were in love with Dan Hawkins for two years too long...Allbuffs is fun and a great place to visit, but I wouldn't put a lot on the talent evaluation here. If Montez had a higher profile in high school
and been able to go to a program with a better coaching staff he'd be quite a bit ahead of where he's at now. Hopefully Roper helps him out. I'm optimistic about that.

Your regular Dan Hawkins references confuse me. Pretty much everyone was off the bandwagon after CSU in 2009. How is that "two years too long?"
 
BTW, I realize I may have been somewhat harsh on Montez in this thread, but I do not consider my opinion that he has been mediocre to date to be controversial.

I hope he takes the steps forward, but a lot of fans talk about him in glowing terms, which seems premature.
 
BTW, I realize I may have been somewhat harsh on Montez in this thread, but I do not consider my opinion that he has been mediocre to date to be controversial.

I hope he takes the steps forward, but a lot of fans talk about him in glowing terms, which seems premature.

The statement that he has been mediocre is fair, and is supported by the record.

What give hope is that while some players mediocre is based on just playing at an average or slightly below average level consistently Montez hasn't been that way.

His play tends to be very good mixed into a little more bad. The positive with this is he has shown he can make plays that average QBs can't, he just hasn't done it consistently. With some hard work and quality coaching the hope is that he replaces a lot of the bad with the very good and we have a QB who can win us games.
 
BTW, I realize I may have been somewhat harsh on Montez in this thread, but I do not consider my opinion that he has been mediocre to date to be controversial.

I hope he takes the steps forward, but a lot of fans talk about him in glowing terms, which seems premature.
The 300/100 game against Oregon can cause blinders to everything else. Coach Hawkins beating a top 5 OU squad caused the same for me for two years.
 
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I think Montez is going to have a good season. Junior year can often be the breakthrough season. But, I also hope the coaches are getting the other guys ready. This far into MikeMac’s tenure, we should have more than one QB who is ready to play (and on paper it seems like we might).
 
I think Montez is going to have a good season. Junior year can often be the breakthrough season. But, I also hope the coaches are getting the other guys ready. This far into MikeMac’s tenure, we should have more than one QB who is ready to play (and on paper it seems like we might).
We really need to utilize him in the run game more and hopefully the coaches realize this and aren’t afraid of him getting banged up with the emergence of lytle and Boyer being familiar with everything.
 
We really need to utilize him in the run game more and hopefully the coaches realize this and aren’t afraid of him getting banged up with the emergence of lytle and Boyer being familiar with everything.
I think that would be awesome. While I want to make sure we are getting the ball to our playmaker receivers, it would be huge if we used Montez as a running threat. Tough on defenses if they are trying to plan for Montez running, one of our running backs (which seem like they should be good), the ball getting to any one of our playmaker receivers and, with a little luck, throw in a TE receiving threat. If the o line can just give us enough time, our offense could be very dangerous.
 
Your regular Dan Hawkins references confuse me. Pretty much everyone was off the bandwagon after CSU in 2009. How is that "two years too long?"

Yes it was really 4 years too long. I was off the bandwagon after he lost to MT State in game 1. I was giving the Hawkinsites more cred than they deserved...
 
Yeah, cause Montez has done so much as a leader and player during his time here to warrant unwavering loyalty from the fanbase...

Hey Tsheck, I respect your opinions a lot here on AB, and as you know by now I'm a huge and unapologetic Josh Allen fan even given the caveats having to do with some of his numbers.
Same thing with Steven. We'll just see how it all plays out....If both guys get the coaching they need and take to it, the sky's the limit. But I'd sure rather be the Bills today than the Browns.
 
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