The President role has changed at CU, since it is now a 4-campus system since Gordon Gee was here. You need a Gordon Gee, but in the Chancellor position
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#Fire Phil DiStefano
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The President role has changed at CU, since it is now a 4-campus system since Gordon Gee was here. You need a Gordon Gee, but in the Chancellor position
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The Physical Education situation seems a further indicator of the CU institutional lack of any creative thinking. They don't want to sully our 'prestige' with an outdated idea of what P.E. is. Sure when Phil was a student a P.E. career involved very tight shorts, a whistle. cigarettes while watching kids in wife beaters climb the rope and run laps.
With two days of thought I could see that as an extension of the business school. A limited program, very much targeted to athletes, giving them skills to set up businesses for young athlete strength and skill training.
Just as the college football landscape and recruiting picture has changed dramatically in recent years, most of us 35 year olds wouldn't recognize the average prep athlete experience these days.
Kids are increasingly associating with, and seeking guidance from their third party coaches and mentors than their high schools. CU has a few visible alumni in this space locally, but we could be embracing and defining an industry - and lifting it up to our touted ideals - if anyone had any innovative thinking or ability to cut through the institutional paralysis.
The excuses and the 'we can't' statements still make my blood boil two days later. Anyone working outside academia know those are CLM statements (Career Limiting Moves)
With two days of thought I could see that as an extension of the business school. A limited program, very much targeted to athletes, giving them skills to set up businesses for young athlete strength and skill training.
Just as the college football landscape and recruiting picture has changed dramatically in recent years, most of us 35 year olds wouldn't recognize the average prep athlete experience these days.
Kids are increasingly associating with, and seeking guidance from their third party coaches and mentors than their high schools. CU has a few visible alumni in this space locally, but we could be embracing and defining an industry - and lifting it up to our touted ideals - if anyone had any innovative thinking or ability to cut through the institutional paralysis.
The excuses and the 'we can't' statements still make my blood boil two days later. Anyone working outside academia know those are CLM statements (Career Limiting Moves)
Dr. Phil looks at the FB field and remembers being picked last for kickball.
He was picked last for Chancellor, too. He just waited around long enough so that all the other players were taken.
My spouse is doing a PhD at Duke University right now (not in PE).
Duke has a Physical Education program.
Does anyone want to argue that Duke is a less prestigious academic institution than CU?
CU is run by a bunch of lazy 110 IQ poseurs who are afraid of being found out so their default posture is to mimic what they believe to be the beliefs and attitudes of 140 IQ people. Hence, Phil the Chancellor. Hence, CU. In the better parts of the private sector the Phil Ds are exposed and expunged before they reach his age.
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You know, I was thinking about this. I was thinking that there’s absolutely no way in Hell that Phil would survive this long at most self respecting schools. The only reason he is still around is because the Boulder campus has been largely ignored by University leadership for the better part of 20 years.
Not quite. I believe the NCAA's Progress Toward Degree rules went into effect in 2003. It's the combination of the two policies that is the killer for CU football. CU needed to revise their transfer credit policies to keep up, but they never did. Completely self-inflicted.
Progress toward degree - Wikipedia
The credit problem only crept up when the transfer portal became a thing and then only when the One-time transfer rule was implemented. Before, it didn't make much difference as it was too costly for upperclassman to transfer due to having to sit a year, grad transfers didn't worry about credit transfer, and freshman/sophomore transfers didn't really have that many credits that would set them back significantly (most core 100 level type classes probably counted). Juco's were always an issue depending on if they got their AA and what the majority of the credits were in.
A touch of a stretch: I watched the HBO series, Chernobyl. One of the most astonishing parts is how clearly the problem was created by the system of promoting, enabling uninspired, middling old men who will simply follow the “party line” over all reason and obvious fact.
All which makes me go……. Hmmmm.
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On the question of how CU transfer credit policies related to PE courses differ from conference peers, Washington allows 3 quarter credits (equivalent to 2 CU semester credits) from PE activity courses (so stuff like bowling rather than classroom-based coursework), Arizona caps these at 3 semester credits, and Oregon allows up to 12 quarter (or 8 semester) credits combined for "vocational, technical, physical education, and music performance courses" (most universities refuse transfer credit for remedial and vocational coursework, along with doctrinal religious courses from private religious colleges and universities, but this was the only limit on music performance credits that I saw - CU does not appear to have any such limit). On the one hand, these aren't huge differences considered against the 120 credits needed to graduate or the 24 credits/year needed for athletics eligibility, and it doesn't support the idea student-athletes in the portal have been padding their eligibility requirements with a ton of these kinds of credits. But on the other, even a small difference might matter to potential transfers, especially to those student-athletes that are just maintaining eligibility at their current universities and would keep that eligibility by transferring those PE credits to our conference rivals but would find themselves 2-8 credits short of NCAA eligibility rules at CU. And this does show CU to be an outlier on the transfer of PE activity credits, which I had seen a lot of posts claim but nobody try to document.
While I'm here I may as well also mention that the issue at CU is not that it lacks a PE major. The need for an equivalent course at CU is only relevant for credit toward major or other gen ed requirements, not for elective credit toward graduation (or athletics eligibility). Of those schools mentioned above as accepting PE transfer credit, only Arizona has a PE major (Oregon has a PE program, but only offers activity courses, not a major, and Washington has neither). Not that this is the only transfer credit issue, or that changing the rule about PE activity credits might not have other obstacles (I don't know its history, but it couldn't be waived or changed only for athletes, as some here have suggested), but it is at least my understanding that nothing else would need to change in order to change that rule.
While I'm here I may as well also mention that the issue at CU is not that it lacks a PE major. The need for an equivalent course at CU is only relevant for credit toward major or other gen ed requirements, not for elective credit toward graduation (or athletics eligibility). Of those schools mentioned above as accepting PE transfer credit, only Arizona has a PE major (Oregon has a PE program, but only offers activity courses, not a major, and Washington has neither). Not that this is the only transfer credit issue, or that changing the rule about PE activity credits might not have other obstacles (I don't know its history, but it couldn't be waived or changed only for athletes, as some here have suggested), but it is at least my understanding that nothing else would need to change in order to change that rule.
"We don't need to change transfer requirements in order to be competitive in the transfer portal" = "RBMK reactors don't explode"
That makes me think that Pahi is UK's sock.
Boom!!
Bureaucracy is evil
Click around 22 min into hour 3.
Klatt has some opinions that we all share. He seems to think CU might finally make changes.
Great rant. Nice to know someone with a voice sees this the same way we all do.
Click around 22 min into hour 3.
Klatt has some opinions that we all share. He seems to think CU might finally make changes.
He’s a roach. Of course he’d survive. He’s the guy in every office who bus rolls people at every opportunity so that he diverts attention away from him doing absolutely nothing.
Seriously. I sometimes wonder if the people who glorify the corporate world when compared to the government have actually ever worked for a corporation.
Thanks for posting this. It would be interesting to hear "why" he thinks CU will change this other than just wishful thinking. PD's comments would contradict this in every sense.
Click around 22 min into hour 3.
Klatt has some opinions that we all share. He seems to think CU might finally make changes.
This. The symptoms they decry are often (not "always," but I'd say the percentage is north of 90) present in any organization larger than about 5-10 people.
And after you get to about 50 people, the percentage of organizations with those issues rapidly approaches 100%.
This.
It appears Buff fans are in agreement here:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Phil DiStefano the right leader to make the necessary changes for the future success of <a href="https://twitter.com/CUBuffsFootball?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@CUBuffsFootball</a>?</p>— Kelli Brooks (@KelliBrooks627) <a href="">October 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Phil DiStefano the right leader to make the necessary changes for the future success of <a href="https://twitter.com/CUBuffsFootball?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@CUBuffsFootball</a>?</p>— Kelli Brooks (@KelliBrooks627) <a href="">October 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>