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For those of you watching the QB comp... Guess who is winning?

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Darth Snow

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Thursday’s scrimmage, which emphasized third downs, red zone play and special teams, included 163 plays, eight penalties and six touchdowns. Coaches said the plan was to give quarterbacks Tyler Hansen and Cody Hawkins equal snaps, but Hawkins threw 44 passes to Hansen’s 29, and 59.1 percent of his throws to Hansen’s 55.2. Offensive coordinator Eric Kiesau said they entered Thursday completing almost 70 percent of their passes through the first six spring practices.

Hawkins led the offense to 33 points; Hansen to 10. It gained 227 yards in 56 plays behind Hawkins; 179 in 47 behind Hansen
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:bang:
http://www.timescall.com/sports-college/sportscollege-story.asp?ID=21307
 
Still think we are going to see a healthy dose of both, just as we have the last couple seasons.
 
Why was Cody inserted to finish Tyler's drives? Intentional move to pad Cody's stats and QB rating? I really don't understand this. When the field shrinks near the goal line, that's where you need your strong-armed QB who can run.
 
If Hawk is gonna go down, he is sure as hell going down his way. We will never have any consistency at the position until we settle on ONE qb.
 
Cody was inserted so that they had shared time from within the 25 yd line. This is Tyler's job.
 
buffaholic said:
Cody was inserted so that they had shared time from within the 25 yd line. This is Tyler's job.
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I hope you're right. You should be right. It shouldn't even be a discussion. But what scares the hell out of me (and I don't think I'm alone here), is that the one person on the planet who seems to think that Cody Hawkins is a viable BCS quarterback happens to be the head coach of the football team Cody plays on and is his dad.
 
The snaps were pretty close between the two (56 snaps for Cody, 47 for Tyler), but they ran the ball 18 times when Hansen took the snap, and only 12 when Cody did, so the difference in the snaps plus the difference in running plays really makes it look like Cody is taking over the offense because of the passing stats.

It looks like we are going to have to set up the run by passing this season. We are still thin across the board at nearly every position so losing guys like McKnight really changes how effective any practices really can be for the offense.
 
aw hell. i just refuse to invest any emotional energy in being pissed about this whole thing any longer. i have no confidence in this staff at all. given our crappy program karma, i figure they'll win 7 games, limp into the weed-wacker bowl, get crushed, and then get retained. we'll then have a stellar class ranked somewhere in the 60s or so and at or near the bottom of the b12. it is going to be awesome. not.

the staff has made a ton of really bad choices and they haven't show any ability to build a program at all. but, probably the single worst decision they made was to bring the coach's kid here. he's a gamer and a good kid and i have nothing against him at all. but, his presence has cost us at least 2 bluechip qb for sure in landry jones and jordan wynn. so, now, we've got a qb competition between 2 guys who, as of this date, have not been able to demonstrate that they are capable of pulling the team onto their backs and willing it to a win when all else fails.

great.
 
So the nightmare will continue until one or both hawks fly the coop. Cody is a nice kid but I will lose my sh*t if he is the game one starter.
 
If there were any logic involved there would be no question that Tyler is the starter. Unfortunately we are dealing with "Hawk logic" and that means unfortunately that he will still do everything in his power to prove himself right including giving his son every opportunity to be the "Hawkins on the field." In other words we are going to see Cody play a lot, I am stating it here that he will probably start at least 4 games this year and Hawk will justify it with a straight face.

The good news (if we can call it good news) is that Hawk is so stubborn that he will go down in flames making it much harder for the administration to justify keeping him yet another year after this one.

I hope in many respects that I am wrong but after four years of watching Dan Hawkins try to explain the unexplainable and excuse the unexcusable I am getting that ugly feeling in my gut that we are in for more of the same an maybe even worse.
 
SCB said:
So the nightmare will continue until one or both hawks fly the coop. Cody is a nice kid but I will lose my sh*t if he is the game one starter.
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that's why i'm not buying a ticket to the csu game until we know the starter. if cody trots out there, i will physically assault someone or jump from the concourse.
 
SCB said:
So the nightmare will continue until one or both hawks fly the coop. Cody is a nice kid but I will lose my sh*t if he is the game one starter.
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Keep some fresh shorts with you because from all indications Hawk will be Hawk until the administration finally grows a pair and fires him.
 
Liver said:
aw hell. i just refuse to invest any emotional energy in being pissed about this whole thing any longer. i have no confidence in this staff at all. given our crappy program karma, i figure they'll win 7 games, limp into the weed-wacker bowl, get crushed, and then get retained. we'll then have a stellar class ranked somewhere in the 60s or so and at or near the bottom of the b12. it is going to be awesome. not.

the staff has made a ton of really bad choices and they haven't show any ability to build a program at all. but, probably the single worst decision they made was to bring the coach's kid here. he's a gamer and a good kid and i have nothing against him at all. but, his presence has cost us at least 2 bluechip qb for sure in landry jones and jordan wynn. so, now, we've got a qb competition between 2 guys who, as of this date, have not been able to demonstrate that they are capable of pulling the team onto their backs and willing it to a win when all else fails.

great.
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I agree with everything you say except the 7 wins - no way - the road schedule is brutal.
 
Four to five wins top. We do have to play on the road, and Hawk and his merry men have proved that they habitually unravel (or put the blame on others) when put in a hostile environment.
 
I've read the reports and posts, but my question is this: were the QB's live? If they weren't I don't know how any sane person could say CH did better than TH. CH struggles mightily when he has pressure. TH has escpability. If CH knows he can sit and not worry about being hit, he probably is the better short to mid range passer. Problem is every DC from Bangor, Maine to Nome, Alaska knows what to do when CH is under center.
 
fyi...

http://www.dailycamera.com/sports/ci_14705571#axzz0ie5fJaGj

Colorado fans probably don't want to hear it, read it or acknowledge it, but a quarterback battle is brewing in Boulder if the results of the first scrimmage of spring ball are any indication.
Junior Tyler Hansen and senior Cody Hawkins used evenly split opportunities Thursday afternoon at Folsom Field to produce similar results. However, Hawkins won on the scoreboard with four touchdown passes to Hansen's one.
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I am as analytical as they come, but why does Kiesau deem it necessary to keep.....

track of the competition in detail down to the last rep this spring.
"It's a huge scale on how I'm grading them," he said. "It's very time consuming." ​
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Unless Hansen gets injured, there is no decision to be made....Hansen is the starter. This open competition will only screw the team in its preparation for the season....
 
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Deja vu all over again.

Except this time Miller and McKnight are dinged up, Sumler and Scott are off the team, and Simas is on the thinnest of ice.
 
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