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Fowler on Buyout
- Thread starter SanDiegoBuff
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ScottyBuff
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry I didn't realize CU was the only school in major college football that had scholarships reduce to 85.
higher than average enrollment standards is closer to a better argument but there are plenty of schools out there that are on par with CU that still compete and thrive.
Less fertile recruiting grounds is partially legit as well, but still not enough of a factor for us to use it as a crutch.
On average, from 2004-2008 there were 14 players PER YEAR from Colorado that went to BCS schools on scholarship. With only 1 "BCS" school in the state, that puts us on par with the states of Michigan, Mississippi, Tennessee, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Washington, North Carolina and better than Arizona, Kentucky, Connecticut, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Indiana, Oregon, and West Virginia. So I completely disagree with the assertion that the state of Colorado isn't a sufficient "recruiting ground" to base on. Sure we always need to bring in talent from TX and CA, but we can still find talent in our own backyard.
The admin issue is the only real "excuse" as to why it might be harder to win at CU than other places. But maybe Hawkins lack of wins and the ensuing drop off in revenue will spur the change that needs to happen.
I think tbd has had too many juice boxes tonight. :smile2:
COTransplant
Club Member
:yeahthat:
I know this board has had the debate on Fowler over and over again, but hes a great representative of the University, imo
Ralphandler1
Member
That line hit me too.... Clearly he should mention Colorado is one of the top 30 programs in the country as far as win percentage, one of the top 25 most televised and has a great tradition. True we don't have the ability to admit academically underachieving students like NU, KSU etc.... but we have always made it work. No reason it cannot work for another coach.
Hawkmustgo!
New Member
I think he probably has some inside scoop....let's just hope he is correct!:thumbsup:
Hawkmustgo!
New Member
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
DBT really doesn't like to see CU graduates make the big time. Klatt would love to be on ESPN like Fowler, both terrible people for having aspirations.
fatbuff
Member
Dont blame the fans, Charlie. Its the coaches fault we dont have the money.
BuffLuke80
Well-Known Member
If u think they dont have the money, you are naiive. They do but they want their investment back. BB laughed when I said Herm, I think he would be great here. He isnt a good coach according to him, im sure you could coach up KC.
Not that many of you guys are twitter followers but Chade Forde was quoting fowler on there last night as being confident the money was there.
Buttermaker
Active Member
Besides Fowler's rather definitive comments about the buyout money during the broadcast something else really struck me. Did you see the way Hawkins walked off the field.
He was all smiles and just seemed to be a guy who had a weight lifted of his shoulders. He had longer than usual conversations with some and it just seemed like he knew he was done.
Two things wouldn't surprise me at all, one, Fowler was told specifically by somebody (Bohn, etc) that he could be pretty definitive about the buyout money. Two, that Hawk knew he was done before the game.
I think we'll get a presser soon and an interim HC for Nebraska. Also I believe Hawk will take the high road rather than trash the program.
He was all smiles and just seemed to be a guy who had a weight lifted of his shoulders. He had longer than usual conversations with some and it just seemed like he knew he was done.
Two things wouldn't surprise me at all, one, Fowler was told specifically by somebody (Bohn, etc) that he could be pretty definitive about the buyout money. Two, that Hawk knew he was done before the game.
I think we'll get a presser soon and an interim HC for Nebraska. Also I believe Hawk will take the high road rather than trash the program.
BroncoBuff
New Member
Timbuff10
Member
We have every right to voice our opinion on him unless he resigns. I kinda felt sorry for him as he walked off the field last night but then I thought about the Millions of dollars he is about to get so unless he resigns he deserves every comment he gets!
dply
Doble hoja
Have you ever watched college game day? Herbstriet and Dr. Lou are still safe.
OKCBuff
Well-Known Member
THIS!!!!
The guy has a job to do and part of that job is to remain neutral when you're on the clock. I'm SURE that game last night tore him up inside, but he wasn't there to cheer for any team -- he was there to cover it.
I don't think some people get that and that he apparently takes his role very seriously.
I haven't read through the rest of the posts to see if this was addressed or not. But does anybody else think that maybe the reason Fowler is so sure that the money is there is because he may have provided some or all of it? Pure speculation on my part. I'm just trying to connect a few dots here.
Timbuff10
Member
If you gave me 5 grand to build a deck in your back yard and then half way through building it, the thing collapsed and every board was cracked or crooked but I kept telling you the deck would be great and perfect when I am done, would you be pissed?
He was paid that much to do the job well, not just do the job.
Theirroles are completely different. Fowler is not the color commentator. Fowler also covers a LOT more sports than CFB. Fowler is a sports journalist, especially when you consider his background (journalism degree and worked at th CU SID). Holtz and Herbstreit are not journalists, they are only on ESPN t draw the ratings and provide entertainment, look at May and his man crush on Pete Carrol and USC.
Timbuff10
Member
You know, I don't watch any college football other than the Buffs anymore... Just seems pointless with no Champion at the end.
Anyway, I can care less what other people are doing, especially an old washed up college QB and coach. Fowler is a journalist, not an ex athlete. I am willing to guess his journalistic integrity is worth a bit more than those other goof balls he works with.
dply
Doble hoja
I agree. There is a reason we think those other guys are jokes. I like Fowlers professionalism.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
I think someone else indicated that Fowler can't contribute to the CU AD because of conflict of interest (working at espin). Not sure whether or not that's a fact, but it sure makes a lot of sense.