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Future of football series vs CSU

It is not like we are scheduling powerhouses. TCU is on an upswing now, but that probably will not last. In any given year, we are going to be (hopefully) safely in the 7-8 win range. An extra P5 game is going to ruin the season? Seems far-fetched.
How many other teams load there schedule up with 11 out of 12 opponents being P5 teams?
 
It looks like conferences and the playoff system may be driving a movement towards better OOC scheduling. The typical Nebraska schedule of 4 creampuffs at home before the conference schedule starts may be a thing of the past soon. In that case CU playing a better OOC schedule won't be as big a disadvantage as it has been sometimes in the past.

From a fans standpoint it has to be somewhat frustrating to pay full price for a bunch of dates that can hardly be called games just to maintain your season ticket rights.
 
I think it's only a matter of time before the regular season expands to 14 games.
 
It is not like we are scheduling powerhouses. TCU is on an upswing now, but that probably will not last. In any given year, we are going to be (hopefully) safely in the 7-8 win range. An extra P5 game is going to ruin the season? Seems far-fetched.

I'll take TCU to be really good from here on out, until their HC retires or leaves. Dude gets it.
 
I'll take TCU to be really good from here on out, until their HC retires or leaves. Dude gets it.

Maybe. That's a well-run program. But I don't think it's any different than scheduling a KSU. It's not like Snyder's in the Top 10 most years and the resources at OU and UT pretty much guarantee that over a long enough timeline everyone else in the conference will have some lean years when those guys are humming.
 
I'll take TCU to be really good from here on out, until their HC retires or leaves. Dude gets it.
My brother went to his coaching clinic thing. He said he was a real prick but definitely knew his stuff. Top flight coach is how he put it.
 
I feel like the move to two P5 opponents would be revenue driven not competitive driven. Ten p5 teams a year is a lot.
 
The only scenario that I'd support an Aggie series would be a 1-1 with the texas trip played at JerryWorld.

Oh, and CU fans have put up with crap OOC scheduling for far too long. Charleston Southern, Fresno State, UMASS, Montana State, Sacremento State, Toledo, CSU, Eastern Washington,Miami of Ohio, Nicholls State.

its about time CU gets back to its roots and starts scheduling with some swagger again.
 
As tough as the Pac south is, I would prefer cupcakes so we can squeak into the playoffs.
 
I'll be attending the games with my walker. We are talking 7 or 8 years away, right?
 
I'll be attending the games with my walker. We are talking 7 or 8 years away, right?

Yes, which means that there is little chance that Patterson, Sumlin and MacIntyre are at their respective schools. Maybe one of the three.
 
Until all P5 conferences are mandated to play the same amount of conference games, why would there be any incentive to play a brutally hard OOC schedule against 2 other P5 programs? Playing 11 P5 games a year while the SEC schools are playing 9-10?
 
The only scenario that I'd support an Aggie series would be a 1-1 with the texas trip played at JerryWorld.

Oh, and CU fans have put up with crap OOC scheduling for far too long. Charleston Southern, Fresno State, UMASS, Montana State, Sacremento State, Toledo, CSU, Eastern Washington,Miami of Ohio, Nicholls State.

its about time CU gets back to its roots and starts scheduling with some swagger again.

Hopefully we'll be playing that way by the time those schedules roll around.
 
Until all P5 conferences are mandated to play the same amount of conference games, why would there be any incentive to play a brutally hard OOC schedule against 2 other P5 programs? Playing 11 P5 games a year while the SEC schools are playing 9-10?
A one loss FSU last year would likely have been out. A one loss TCU and **** Baylor were left out. Had either of those schools had at least one tough OOC game, they would likely have been in.

If Southern Mississippi had won one game by 7 fewer points than they did, we would have gotten in to the two team playoff in 2001 despite having two losses.

We're not tOSU, or Alabama, or other "great" football schools, and the way we don't let things like what happened to TCU and **** Baylor last year happen to us is by not scheduling like them.

A two loss team with a true big boy schedule will make the playoff one day, and given our history and stature, there's actually a not unreasonable chance they it could be us.
 
Until all P5 conferences are mandated to play the same amount of conference games, why would there be any incentive to play a brutally hard OOC schedule against 2 other P5 programs? Playing 11 P5 games a year while the SEC schools are playing 9-10?
I just ripped through the SEC 2015 schedule. Roughly 3/4 of the schools play one P5 opponent in non-conference play and I do not believe any played two, so that is 8-9 P5 opponents per year vs. CU playing 11? Not such a great idea.

Now - I did not look forward to several years out - not sure if last season's stoning of Baylor and TCU will start changing team's scheduling or not.
 
I just ripped through the SEC 2015 schedule. Roughly 3/4 of the schools play one P5 opponent in non-conference play and I do not believe any played two, so that is 8-9 P5 opponents per year vs. CU playing 11? Not such a great idea.

Now - I did not look forward to several years out - not sure if last season's stoning of Baylor and TCU will start changing team's scheduling or not.

The SEC does not play an 8 game conference schedule, but I would expect that to change very soon. I would anticipate that another team is going to get left out this year that has a pretty valid argument to play, and we will see a shift to a scheduling mindset that is related to strength of schedule. CU playing 2 P5 schools is still 5 years out, so at that point I would expect that many schools around the country will have stepped up their scheduling.
 
The SEC does not play an 8 game conference schedule, but I would expect that to change very soon. I would anticipate that another team is going to get left out this year that has a pretty valid argument to play, and we will see a shift to a scheduling mindset that is related to strength of schedule. CU playing 2 P5 schools is still 5 years out, so at that point I would expect that many schools around the country will have stepped up their scheduling.

Did you mean to say the SEC does play an 8 game conference schedule? Cause they absolutely do only play 8 conference games right now, while The Pac 12 plays 9.

Take a middling to bad SEC programs and their OOC schedules for 2015:

Vandy: Western Kentucky, Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, and Houston
Miss St: Southern Miss, Northwestern St, Troy, and Louisiana Tech
UK: Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, Charlotte, Louisville
Arkansas: UTEP, Toledo, TTU, UT Martin

You get the point. The SEC schools are typically only playing 8-9 Power 5 opponents every year and none of them are playing more than 1 P5 team OOC. Why do we, as Buff fans, believe it'd be good for us to be playing 2 P5 programs OOC, along with the 9 conference games that we already play?
 
TCU/aTm will probably be played after 2020. If we have to schedule 3 non-conf scrubs to get to a bowl game by then, we have serious issues
 
Did you mean to say the SEC does play an 8 game conference schedule? Cause they absolutely do only play 8 conference games right now, while The Pac 12 plays 9.

Take a middling to bad SEC programs and their OOC schedules for 2015:

Vandy: Western Kentucky, Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, and Houston
Miss St: Southern Miss, Northwestern St, Troy, and Louisiana Tech
UK: Louisiana, Eastern Kentucky, Charlotte, Louisville
Arkansas: UTEP, Toledo, TTU, UT Martin

You get the point. The SEC schools are typically only playing 8-9 Power 5 opponents every year and none of them are playing more than 1 P5 team OOC. Why do we, as Buff fans, believe it'd be good for us to be playing 2 P5 programs OOC, along with the 9 conference games that we already play?

Thanks, that is what I meant.

I believe the P5 conferences will eventually be playing just P5 schools. Think that is the way of the future. Personally doesn't scare me. It wouldn't take effect for 5 years anyway. Not a big deal.
 
A one loss FSU last year would likely have been out. A one loss TCU and **** Baylor were left out. Had either of those schools had at least one tough OOC game, they would likely have been in.

If Southern Mississippi had won one game by 7 fewer points than they did, we would have gotten in to the two team playoff in 2001 despite having two losses.

We're not tOSU, or Alabama, or other "great" football schools, and the way we don't let things like what happened to TCU and **** Baylor last year happen to us is by not scheduling like them.

A two loss team with a true big boy schedule will make the playoff one day, and given our history and stature, there's actually a not unreasonable chance they it could be us.

You're not accounting for the Big 12 having a conference title game. If TCU or Baylor get a chance to play in one and win it, they would have been in. CU won't have to worry about that.

Just to win our conference, we have to win 9 or 10 conference games. The Pac 12 also requires over P5 school out of conference to be scheduled pulling that win requirement to 10 or 11 games. Seems like a self-inflicted competitive disadvantage at the time.
 
I'm talking about maximizing our wins and not putting us at a disadvantage for no good reason.

Lots can change in 5 years of CFB. If we can't win those games by then.... I may have to find a new team
 
TCU/aTm will probably be played after 2020. If we have to schedule 3 non-conf scrubs to get to a bowl game by then, we have serious issues

Do you think Alabama, Auburn, UGA, etc. have to schedule 3 non-con scrubs to get to a bowl game? No, but they do anyways because they know that it's better to remain undefeated (or as close to it as possible) and have a weaker SOS, than it is to have 2-3 losses and a better SOS. Like I said, if everything is equal in 2020 to how things are now, CU will already be playing as many, or more, P5 games as all the SEC schools solely based on their P12 schedule. What advantage does it give CU to add 2 more?
 
Do you think Alabama, Auburn, UGA, etc. have to schedule 3 non-con scrubs to get to a bowl game? No, but they do anyways because they know that it's better to remain undefeated (or as close to it as possible) and have a weaker SOS, than it is to have 2-3 losses and a better SOS. Like I said, if everything is equal in 2020 to how things are now, CU will already be playing as many, or more, P5 games as all the SEC schools solely based on their P12 schedule. What advantage does it give CU to add 2 more?

The SOS thing may become a bigger deal in 5 years with the evolution of the playoff system.

Bring on the big boys, that is how CU built its program to begin with.
 
The SOS thing may become a bigger deal in 5 years with the evolution of the playoff system.

Bring on the big boys, that is how CU built its program to begin with.

And that's why I said I'd be fine with this, once all P5 conferences are mandated to play they same amount of conference games.

The SEC & Big 10 both have 2 more programs in their conference than the Pac 12 and 4 more than the Big 12, yet they play 1 less conference game? It's just a ridiculously uneven set up across the P5 conferences.
 
And that's why I said I'd be fine with this, once all P5 conferences are mandated to play they same amount of conference games.

The SEC & Big 10 both have 2 more programs in their conference than the Pac 12 and 4 more than the Big 12, yet they play 1 less conference game? It's just a ridiculously uneven set up across the P5 conferences.

It will even out. It is going to have to as the conferences adapt their scheduling system to give their teams the best shot at the Playoffs.
 
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