Had he stayed healthy I am fairly certain he would have been drafted last year. Really good guy and teammate and he was an NFL level athlete.
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How will the Buffs do in the Draft?
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Had he stayed healthy I am fairly certain he would have been drafted last year. Really good guy and teammate and he was an NFL level athlete.
Because of you, Big Jim. Because of you.
Big Jim
WTF?
"And we have a nice Friends, Family, Fun, and Foosball "4F" plan. It's like going away to camp for four years".
Big Jim
WTF?
The top programs are winning bowl games with a large number of underclassmen starting. Why would a kid want to come to CU now if the plan is that he has to wait 3 years to play on a losing team?
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE A BUFF FAN, SOUNDS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ROOTING FOR BAMA, DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR BUM ON THE WAY OUT. CU LATER.
And this is why you're never going to be hired to recruit.
It gets so tiresome on a ****ing CU board to see people who don't think of CU as a place anyone decent should want to play. Then it always seems to be the same people who get the most pissed that the coaches aren't able to recruit better players.
Here's a quick list of 10 things folks can refer to in the future:
1. Elite football facilities
2. Great location (town + campus + the rockies)
3. Excellent academics
4. Defense: great year-to-year improvement, especially under Leavitt, in a system that has been awesome from KSU to USF to the 49ers
5. Offense: fast-paced system that put up huge numbers when Sefo was healthy in '14 and now brings in the TTU air raid concepts that is even faster-paced and put up video game numbers last season
6. Team record has been improving every season and within a possession of winning a lot of games while playing underclassmen - ready to win
7. Nike school with some of the coolest swag in all of college football
8. Traditional power that's won a bunch of conference titles, national awards, a Heisman, a national title, has among the most wins, highest win %, NFL draft picks, etc, etc, etc -- the fact that it's been done here for a century makes this a sleeping giant and it is waking up
9. Opportunity to play in the Pac-12
10. You get to take the field by running out behind a live ****ing buffalo
Idot Buff
Guest
Just win, and butt wipes like Big Jim will never be heard from again.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
My o my. Crow is goin' down difficult tonight.
On a more positive note, congratz to the Buffs who have been picked up as udfa's. I'm rooting for all of you.
On a more positive note, congratz to the Buffs who have been picked up as udfa's. I'm rooting for all of you.
Big Jim
WTF?
Agreed.
I was referencing your post about winning due to having a mostly upperclass depth chart next fall. The big step CU needs to make in recruiting is to land kids that are P5 players as freshmen and sophs. Instead of no picks CU should get to putting juniors in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
CU has several good recruiters now, hopefully they are bringing in top talent finally.
Joe Theismann's Leg
Well-Known Member
I believe that there's another P5 team that hasn't had a player drafted in the last two years. The Tennessee Volunteers...
FlatironsBuff
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First in with **** CSU
I really appreciate your insight. I do. But you give me a sense of someone who never laughs. I got tired, get tired, of all the negativity. My post was a bit tongue in cheek meant to bring a little levity to the thread. Yeah, our lack of success in the draft is indicative of where we are. But, geez man, chill the **** out!
I'm glad this thread has established how awful Embree and the first few years of MM's recruiting was. Without it, we might have gone on thinking we've been good in that department.
DBT defends coaches and players. Lot of loyalty toward the guys on the teams he roots for. I'm cool with that. It's consistent and comes from a good place. Very similar to the other side of that coin and DBT's rage against the one-sided screwjobs all officiating crews serve up against every team he roots for.
DBT defends coaches and players. Lot of loyalty toward the guys on the teams he roots for. I'm cool with that. It's consistent and comes from a good place. Very similar to the other side of that coin and DBT's rage against the one-sided screwjobs all officiating crews serve up against every team he roots for.
That's fine.
This whole discussion mostly misses the mark anyway IMO. Even the best coaching staffs do not really "develop" talent, they tend to just not screw it up. Certainly exceptions, but I think people tend to overrate "development" (whatever that may be).
Yeah. I defend coaches. I don't apologize for that. And I admit I've been wrong on occasion. I never defended Embree. I saw the light on Hawkins a bit late. But it's easy to bash. I try to be as positive as possible. I'm lukewarm with Mac but I also understand his job is daunting and think he isn't afraid to make changes. BTW, I also defended Bill Mac when just about everyone wanted him gone. So, win a few, lose a few. Right?
Glad you agree! We're making headway here!
And just when we seem to be turning that no talent having corner we should fire everyone and roll the dice again. Because we really arent that bad and we should be bowling with our inferior talent at a minimum.
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BlackNGold
Club Member
I was surprised that no Buff got drafted but individually I knew there were question marks on each one and was pretty sure that Nembot would not get drafted. But they will have a chance in NFL camps to demonstrate ability. Look at Tyler Polumbus - he was an Undrafted FA and ended up with an eight year NFL career.
To CU's talent level, yes it indicates that we are lacking NFL type players but a bigger concern is do we have PAC12 level talent. If we had a to pick 4 - 50 man teams from all the PAC12 rosters - how many Buffs would be chosen to represent on those teams. I think we would be under represented. Right now I am more concerned with fielding a solid PAC 12 roster than how many get picked in the draft.
To CU's talent level, yes it indicates that we are lacking NFL type players but a bigger concern is do we have PAC12 level talent. If we had a to pick 4 - 50 man teams from all the PAC12 rosters - how many Buffs would be chosen to represent on those teams. I think we would be under represented. Right now I am more concerned with fielding a solid PAC 12 roster than how many get picked in the draft.
Thank you Betsy and Byyny
8Jah
Well-Known Member
We have recruited some pretty good pieces over the past few years. If our modest short term goal is to get to any bowl, we are more talented than many a bowl eligible team over the past years. I am more worried about our off-the field incidents, our overall effort in the practices I have seen and the lack of NFL caliber players developed. CSU even got two players in this year!
You don't recruit for stars, you recruit to build the best football team. We have talent that just can't get out of their own way. Many of these folks would have been drafted if we would have had four or five more guy's like Spruce, but at different positions; a critical mass of smart, hard working players that bring it and who demonstrate that hard work pays off. More leaders who show success on the field and how to behave off the field. That's the environment that saves many a gifted 3/4 star young man from his own mental breakdowns.
You don't recruit for stars, you recruit to build the best football team. We have talent that just can't get out of their own way. Many of these folks would have been drafted if we would have had four or five more guy's like Spruce, but at different positions; a critical mass of smart, hard working players that bring it and who demonstrate that hard work pays off. More leaders who show success on the field and how to behave off the field. That's the environment that saves many a gifted 3/4 star young man from his own mental breakdowns.
It does suck that we got nobody drafted. As BnG said each had reasons not to be drafted. When Spruce went out and ran some 40s in the 4.7 range in front of the scouts he gave them reason to doubt him. Nembot is big and strong but so are a lot of other guys who didn't earn the nickname Ole, KC is an NFL type athlete but how often did he show up on some WRs highlight film losing a battle for a ball.
Nembot may spend some time on a practice squad but I don't see him ever having a Polumbus type career. KC who knows, he could get it and stick, odds against him.
Spruce I think will end up not only making a roster but sticking in the league. Higgins from CSU got drafted based on better (but not great) 40 times and some highlights. I still have no question in my mind that Spruce will end up with a better NFL career than Higgins.
Nembot may spend some time on a practice squad but I don't see him ever having a Polumbus type career. KC who knows, he could get it and stick, odds against him.
Spruce I think will end up not only making a roster but sticking in the league. Higgins from CSU got drafted based on better (but not great) 40 times and some highlights. I still have no question in my mind that Spruce will end up with a better NFL career than Higgins.