I wasn't around when they were, but how was the talent behind them? After Polk the drop-off is too significant to risk injury, imo.
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I wasn't around when they were, but how was the talent behind them? After Polk the drop-off is too significant to risk injury, imo.
you could have had a 40+ year old recovering entertainment lawyer as the backup and both would still have returned kicks.
the idea is to play your best athletes. ben kelly single-handedly won about 3 games for CU. had they been saving him for the defense, that never would have happened.
FlatironsBuff
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Yes, but if your DB is also the KR then there will be leftover gold stars and juiceboxes. Less kids will feel wanted on the team. Can't have that.
2HellNback
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:lol: :rofl:
and, just to hammer the ****ing point home, let's make a list...
here's my, off the top of my head, list of the best CU returners of all-time in no particular order:
cliff branch
ben kelly
deon figures
byron white
jeremy bloom
chris hudson
walter stanley
terrence wheatley
now then, where do espy and ebner fit on that list, athletically? those are big shoes to fill but at least polk looks like he's got the athleticism.
**** i get pissed at this ****. juiceboxes for everyone!
ThndringHerd
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You mean like Dave McCloughan?
Nor Cal Buff
Well-Known Member
First KR to throw an INT?
DM was a corner...
Didn't Hagan return punts one year? His senior year, I want to say.....
Yes, 1991.
RuffBuff
Club Member
roman hollowell?
B1Buff
Well-Known Member
Are we going to get an answer here or is this game going to continue until somebody guesses?
Ben Kelly wasn a slightly above average cover corner he got a ton of hype but the thing he was best at was returning kicks.
That i had totally spaced, I still stand by my comment that i dont like the starting safety returning kicks let alone the starting QB. Specific to this case I dont see Polk as a good option at all based on what else we have on the roster. Simmons is the perfect guy to trot out there, lots of experience returning kicks (polk has way less) and he isnt playing anyway so the injury risk goes out the window.
Come on i never said that, and besides two of your examples are currently the #3 receiver for the Donks and perhaps the one of the least effective members of the bears defense who was drafted primarily for his game breaking KR ability. You got me on Deon though.
Junction
Club Member
Eddie Royal lost the starting job he's had since game 1 of his rookie season? When did that happen??
And I'm sure Devin Hester is probably one of the least effective members of the Bears defense because he's starting for them on offense. A guy can only do so much.... :lol:
Buttermaker
Active Member
:yeahthat: He was second in the nation in terms of yards per return but gets overlooked.
Love Hollowell's game, but that is funny....:lol:
Buttermaker
Active Member
pun was not intended
CUwhit21
Club Member
In 2006, Ray Polk returned 8 kicks for Brophy Prep for 253 yards. His long was an 80 yard return.
In 2007, he returned 11 for 206 yards. His long was a 44 yard return.
19 returns, 459 yards
In 2008, Andre Simmons returned 16 kicks for 367 yards
In 2007, Andre had 1 kick return for 12 yards.
17 returns 379 yards
I didn't look up Simmons's high school stats, but I think we could go either way here. Better then Jaffee or Espinoza :lol:.
Eddie Royal has dropped from the #2 receiving option on the team to #3 this season, you dont field 3 safeties. Hester was drafted as a CB/KR and owing to his perceived home-run ability was moved to offense, where he is still learning the game.
Junction
Club Member
on my list of all-time great returners, all but jeremy bloom were full-time starters.
you don't "save" your stars by not playing them on special teams. you play to freaking win.
this isn't tee-ball, youth soccer, or the office basketball league.
this is the bigs. play to freaking win.
if you've got a killer freaking athlete who can help you in the return game, you play him. that's why d.scott was returning kicks. i am sure some of these other guys are all heart and great citizens, but you want guys out there who can change the freaking game in a heartbeat.
eddie royal won the charger game for the broncs.
josh smith made our Buffs more competitive last year than they otherwise would have been.
bloooooooooooooom!
etc.
this is silly.
you don't "save" your stars by not playing them on special teams. you play to freaking win.
this isn't tee-ball, youth soccer, or the office basketball league.
this is the bigs. play to freaking win.
if you've got a killer freaking athlete who can help you in the return game, you play him. that's why d.scott was returning kicks. i am sure some of these other guys are all heart and great citizens, but you want guys out there who can change the freaking game in a heartbeat.
eddie royal won the charger game for the broncs.
josh smith made our Buffs more competitive last year than they otherwise would have been.
bloooooooooooooom!
etc.
this is silly.