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I believe the team will rally next year
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The Guest
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...and SnowBuff's obsession with picking fights...
I'm just worried that I'm the only one who recognizes that we've done the same thing four years in a row against them.
there we go :smile2: It's gonna be a LOOOONG offseason, figured i would get it started on the right foot :wink2:
you aren't the only one. However, I think in the 2d half that stopped.
The Guest
Guest
Based on our on-field performance against Mizzou, I'd say that you are the only one who remembers.
However, when Captain Walker comes to save this team and lead us all to the never-never land, we'll be waiting, repeating the story of how we only rushed three against Mizzou four years in a row. We, the devoted, won't forget, I promise you.
Junction
Club Member
Did you remember to mention your obsession with you??
Unfortunately, I think MU's staff realizes that too.... :sad1:
The Guest
Guest
Did you remember to mention your obsession with you??
I thought that was implied in every post.
I will ask you all to take an honest look, how do the teams that are consistently on top get there and stay there. Look at the teams that are regularly in the top 10, usually in the top 20. You can look at schools from major confrences like the SEC, Big XII, Big X, etc. or look at schools from the mid-majors like the MWC, WAC, etc.
One common thread among these consistent winners who year after year end up on top is that they beat the teams they are supposed to beat. When they lose it is rarely someone outside the top 25, it does happen but it is noteworthy. Who beats Florida, Texas, Ohio State, USC, etc.? Other top rated teams. Look at TCU, BYU, Hawks old Boise. when they lose it is to other top schools.
One common thread over the past four years is that we have played better than expected against top competition (with notable exceptions like MU) and struggled with CSU, KSU, ISU, Montana State, Eastern Washington, Toledo.
I have great respect for the players and believe that Hawk and his staff have brought in players who can compete at a high level. At the same time until and unless he as a coach can show me that he can get a team prepared consistently on a week in and week out basis and win the games he should I will not be a supporter of his continued employment at CU.
I hope with all my heart that I am wrong and will willingly eat crow if I am like I was with Josh McDaniels but my head says that you can't fake character and in four years we know Hawk's character as a coach and his teams are not prepared for the games they should win.
One common thread among these consistent winners who year after year end up on top is that they beat the teams they are supposed to beat. When they lose it is rarely someone outside the top 25, it does happen but it is noteworthy. Who beats Florida, Texas, Ohio State, USC, etc.? Other top rated teams. Look at TCU, BYU, Hawks old Boise. when they lose it is to other top schools.
One common thread over the past four years is that we have played better than expected against top competition (with notable exceptions like MU) and struggled with CSU, KSU, ISU, Montana State, Eastern Washington, Toledo.
I have great respect for the players and believe that Hawk and his staff have brought in players who can compete at a high level. At the same time until and unless he as a coach can show me that he can get a team prepared consistently on a week in and week out basis and win the games he should I will not be a supporter of his continued employment at CU.
I hope with all my heart that I am wrong and will willingly eat crow if I am like I was with Josh McDaniels but my head says that you can't fake character and in four years we know Hawk's character as a coach and his teams are not prepared for the games they should win.
BuffFan
Member
What makes you think this admin will spend 2 million next year? Winning is not a priority, Hawk maybe here until his contact is done. With the loss in revenue they will be in the same situation next year.
Idot Buff
Guest
Agreed...this administration (Bohn, Destufadoosh) do not care about winning. When the athletic program implodes from the lack of football revenue, these guys will be gone, and we will be known as Baylor North.
I totally agree, that even with a mediocre coach there is not one game next year that is not winnable by CU.
Having said that, with Hawkins as Coach, I fully expect CU to win AT LEAST 2-3 of them.
:smile2:
My optimistic post of the day
Having said that, with Hawkins as Coach, I fully expect CU to win AT LEAST 2-3 of them.
:smile2:
My optimistic post of the day
number of expected wins is somewhere between 0 and 6. I will know more after the inevitable offseason attrition.I totally agree, that even with a mediocre coach there is not one game next year that is not winnable by CU.
Having said that, with Hawkins as Coach, I fully expect CU to win AT LEAST 2-3 of them.
:smile2:
My optimistic post of the day
AlferdJasper
Well-Known Member
I'm expanding this week. I think I might specialize in longsnappers for a while.
somebody
Well-Known Member
:lalala:
Are you still talking?
Yeah, these are the coaches we're stuck with. Why does that give us any hope?
buffwings
Club Member
:yeahthat: I'd feel better if Kiesau left, Kragthorpe or some really good OC got hired, Riddle was ran out and replaced with someone better, we get a real WR coach, and Cabral takes over coaching ALL the LBs, and all the while Asshat stays out of the asst coach's chili and lets them coach.
Ohh, and JR keeps riding the pine.
Still only expect 3 wins.
In hostage negotiations it's called Stockholm Syndrome.
Read this morning in the DP, Burney saying "Just this close, just this close. I can't wait to see these guys next year; It's just going to explode".
A lot of the guys sound like Hawkins now.
:wow::wow::wow:
Having said that, there's some talent on the team (WR) if they will get them on the field. But good luck with that. With this regime all the personnel decisions are just so effin' complicated and so grueling....
If he does turn things around, I'll be the first to congratulate him and sing his praises. At the end of the day, that's the best case scenario, right? That we keep him and he succeeds. Having witnessed what he's capable of for the last four years, I honestly don't think he has the ability to lead this team to more than 5 games. He's incompetent. All this bullsh!t about "being close" and "working on the little things" rings so hollow when you look at what has actually been accomplished.
Johnny Juzang
Well-Known Member
For the sake of my own sanity, I'm just going to get on board with Colorado Buffalo football for the next year and try not to concern myself with things beyond my control.
Go Buffs.
Go Buffs.
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
Returning starters from Nebraska game with what year they will be next year.
offense (9)
WR Scotty McNight, SR
WR Markques Simas, JR
LT Nate Solder, SR
LG Mike Iltis, JR
C Keenan Stevens, SR
RG Ryan Miller, JR
RT Bryce Givens, SO
QB Tyler Hansen, JR
TB Rodney Stewart, JR
defense (8)
DE Marquez Herrod, SR
DT Curtis Cunningham, JR
NT Will Pericek, SO
LB B.J. Beatty, SR
LB Michael Sipili, SR
CB Jimmy Smith, SR
CB Jalil Brown, SR
S Anthony Perkins, JR
Specialists (4)
K Aric Goodman, SR
KR Brian Lockridge, JR
PR Scotty McNight, SR
H Scotty McNight, SR
Some things that stand out to me
1. Look at the bolded, all 5 linemen returning. I am keeping my fingers crossed these guys go through the entire offseason gelling and no injuries or transfers. They will be more experienced next year and that will be huge. This group that started against Nebraska started coming on at the end of the season.
2. We have some good senior leadership on defense next year.
3. 2011 senior class will be a good one, but they are upperclassmen next year and should start to take that leadership role in '10.
I agree we have the potential next year (we will need it with the schedule), however this coaching staff scares the crap out of me. We need to fix penalties and basic fundamentals.
offense (9)
WR Scotty McNight, SR
WR Markques Simas, JR
LT Nate Solder, SR
LG Mike Iltis, JR
C Keenan Stevens, SR
RG Ryan Miller, JR
RT Bryce Givens, SO
QB Tyler Hansen, JR
TB Rodney Stewart, JR
defense (8)
DE Marquez Herrod, SR
DT Curtis Cunningham, JR
NT Will Pericek, SO
LB B.J. Beatty, SR
LB Michael Sipili, SR
CB Jimmy Smith, SR
CB Jalil Brown, SR
S Anthony Perkins, JR
Specialists (4)
K Aric Goodman, SR
KR Brian Lockridge, JR
PR Scotty McNight, SR
H Scotty McNight, SR
Some things that stand out to me
1. Look at the bolded, all 5 linemen returning. I am keeping my fingers crossed these guys go through the entire offseason gelling and no injuries or transfers. They will be more experienced next year and that will be huge. This group that started against Nebraska started coming on at the end of the season.
2. We have some good senior leadership on defense next year.
3. 2011 senior class will be a good one, but they are upperclassmen next year and should start to take that leadership role in '10.
I agree we have the potential next year (we will need it with the schedule), however this coaching staff scares the crap out of me. We need to fix penalties and basic fundamentals.
buffsyko
Club Member
From the results of the last 4 years, i'm interested in why you would be shocked if we don't go to a good bowl next season.
We heard this after the 07 season. We heard all this turning the corner at the end of last season.
There will be much debate but how many times does our HC think he can fool people? It's not working.
Hopefully, he shuts his mouth this off-season and doesn't tell everyone how great they could or will be and do a better job of coaching and win. Just win.
We lose a lot of guys on defense. I think next year is just as ugly as this year.
buffsyko
Club Member
We lose brown and burney in the secondary and burton,smart mohler at LB.
DL all return and you still have sipili,beatty,major and rippy,ahles at lb.Smith and brown back at cb along with polk and perkins so, not too bad.
No faith in the coaching and much tougher schedule,especially on the road may make your statement right on the money.
I'm believing in Webb at LB and Thornton at TE. I also think Grossnickle will be a big upgrade. I can't wait to see what Orms can do. I heard they needed an RB in a practice and he filled in and kicked ass. But he'll probably be a DB. I don't like putting my faith in hope, but I hope that Mariner comes back fully ready.
SCB
Well-Known Member
Seems to me that the coaching staff is starting to figure out that we must play our best players. They are also beginning to find ways to put those players in positions to succeed. There is still some frightening play calling and rather vanilla schemes, but I do see some positive signs. I'm hoping for the best. GO BUFFS.
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
We don't lose a whole lot (8 of 11 return) and we actually have a lot of senior leadership on D next year, but syko is right, no faith in the coaching.