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I just want to win -- HC situation
- Thread starter Buffnik
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What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?
With all of the job openings, Pickens are pretty Slim, but Willie has South Florida headed in the right direction. Plus he has California and Florida connections.
let it play out--- rg seems pretty competent. if he quietly ascertain that a guy like miles would come, then you pull the trigger. given all the open jobs, i'd be leery of doing anything concrete unless i had a clear and exciting replacement ready to go. a big name will generate ticket sales, donations, interest, tv games, and a recruiting boost. a "who?" name doesn't move us forward and might move us backward as we continue to be identified as a coaching graveyard.
Mark richt wouldnt bother me at all, if georgia is sick of him.
Big Jim
WTF?
How in world can you see a situation in which CU could move backwards given the past 5 years?
if you don't have a "wow" hire lined up, and you pop a guy after 3 years, it leaves a mark. we've now blown through a coach who came here with the highest winning % in the game (hawkins) and he failed. then, we went sentimental hire with embree and popped him after only 2 years of abysmal failure.
folks on the outside won't care about all the good reasons for changes. up and coming coaches aren't going to want this if they have better options. we'll end up with a re-tread, a total unknown flier, or damaged goods.
if you are going to do this, this year, then you better have a grand slam no-brainer ready to announce.
folks on the outside won't care about all the good reasons for changes. up and coming coaches aren't going to want this if they have better options. we'll end up with a re-tread, a total unknown flier, or damaged goods.
if you are going to do this, this year, then you better have a grand slam no-brainer ready to announce.
BlackNGold
Club Member
I am shocked. I thought you were firmly in the MacIntyre camp. I have thought for awhile that a big motivator would be to boost fan interest and a big name coach would do that. We cannot continue to draw less than 40,000 fans on average and have a viable AD. I think RG is in a tough position. The optics of another coaching buy out would not be good with college athletic hating media and faculty but can you continue to lose your fan base.
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
How are you guys gonna leave out my boy DJ Durkin?
Rivals recruiter of the year, check
Currently incredible defense, check
west coast ties, check
has coached under: Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, Will Muschamp, and Dan Quinn
he even has ST coaching experience, ****ing KEY. He would ban Neinas for life from Dal Ward the day he's hired
and last time we hired the Michigan DC things went pretty well
Rivals recruiter of the year, check
Currently incredible defense, check
west coast ties, check
has coached under: Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, Will Muschamp, and Dan Quinn
he even has ST coaching experience, ****ing KEY. He would ban Neinas for life from Dal Ward the day he's hired
and last time we hired the Michigan DC things went pretty well
OUBuff
American
Somebody go get a ****-load of dimes!What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on here?
Nah. I really wanted him to succeed. As always, I got 100% behind a coach and unconditionally supported until I saw that his plan wasn't working. (You can probably find a lot of posts by me doing that with both Hawkins and Embree, promoting the hire, and hanging on to hope after the "haters" had grown in number and found support.) I was willing to have some patience in consideration of the mess that was CU football. And I was firmly anti-reactionary toward every game/play call/press conference quote. If RG decides to bring HCMM back next year, I'm sure I'll rally and go into the season hopeful and supportive. But I won't be confident in my excitement and it won't take much failure for me to give up on his tenure completely.
Shouldn't forget Durkin. He should be getting more run in all these coaching searches. I think the assumption was that the Florida defense was all about Muschamp, but now that we're seeing Muchamp's results at Auburn this year and thinking in terms of the diminishing returns he had as the DC at UT... well, I'm thinking that Durkin is the man. Maybe it's just that none of the big boys will consider a coach who is in his 30s? Worked out fine for Oklahoma State when they hired Gundy. I'd be down with Durkin.
lawdogg
Club Member
Would not be a bad choice
I don't claim to have full knowledge of the situation and am happy to be corrected.
That said, he lied to the NCAA about what? Tatoos and selling gear? So what? Frankly, I like people who lie to the NCAA. Just try to be smarter about it so you don't get caught. There is nothing immoral about the root problem, if the root problem was just tatoos and selling gear.
fatbuff
Member
Most who want Mike to stay, condition it on him making changes with assistants. That ship has sailed, unless you can find an OC that was run out of CF for something and has done his time and can be accepted back in a diminished role. In other words, we aren't going to find a new OC in the offseason with the ability to turn things around. As for Neinas, getting Riddle to clinic special teams would be an improvement. No worthwhile assistant is going to want to join Mike for his swan song. I think it's time for him to go, or RG needs to make his coaching search priority one all year long, and we hope Mike doesn't implode while we look.
Remember when Travis Wilson committed to Utah and the Buffs went with Shane Dillon the next day? Yeah, that kinda didn't work out for us like we'd hoped.
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
Do we really think RG is going to fire Mac though? Seemed like that was off the table when we executed the moral victory over USC?
Getting scraped by Wazzu is always a little bit of a nut punch, but not really anything worse than that opening season nut punch followed by a couple stomps by the Rainbows while we're curled up on the ground in the fetal position.
Getting scraped by Wazzu is always a little bit of a nut punch, but not really anything worse than that opening season nut punch followed by a couple stomps by the Rainbows while we're curled up on the ground in the fetal position.
I have no inside info, not even outside info, but I have pretty much thought since Oregon MikMac was on thin ice. I have this feeling RG said bowl or else before the season. The losses to UH (I still cannot believe the Buffs lost to that completely ****ty team) and the failure to steal the UO win made a bowl game a tough goal even at that point of the season. That would explain MikMac's dead man walking demeanor at Wazzu. But then again, he could have just had a bad burrito too, what do I know? Fact is, Syracuse canned their guy after 13-23 in year three. MikMac is 10-26. 2-24 in the P12, it isn't like it is unprecedented, and I cannot believe it is any harder to get a HC to Boulder than whatever God forsaken upstate town Syracuse is in. (Yes I know it is in Syracuse...).
White_Rabbit
Well-Known Member
Don't get me wrong, I think 3 years is enough in this day and age. Everyone remembers us only giving Embree two years, but how about the massive patience we gave Hawk? I think it wouldn't really have much, if any, effect on us hiring who we want. Purdue with Darrell Hazell is another one to watch. He's had a pretty similar run to Mac (1 good year at Kent State, now he's 6-29 overall with a 2-21 conference record). I think we've been more competitive than they have been, but meh.
I agree with this.
A "who?" hire enforces the perception that CU is just a "who?" program.
This. All of it.
Idaho
Csu
Oregon state (they are going winless in conference this year. We should beat them again, especially at home)
@arizona (not confident that rich rod can get them rolling again)
Ucla (we are finally gonna beat these ****ers)
Utah (lose a TON to graduation)
MM is the coach until he isn't.
Him returning won't make me give up my tickets. I'll be back next year regardless. Eventually, this boat will get turned in the right direction and I want to be on board when it does. I don't care who the coach is, but like I said, until there's a change, he is the guy and Im not getting into speculation as to who his replacement will be.
Him returning won't make me give up my tickets. I'll be back next year regardless. Eventually, this boat will get turned in the right direction and I want to be on board when it does. I don't care who the coach is, but like I said, until there's a change, he is the guy and Im not getting into speculation as to who his replacement will be.
My last season as a season ticket holder was 2007. This was for good reason as my oldest started soccer that year, Soccer ended for us 2 years ago and I simply see no reason to reinvest.
Things are very different this time around. Rick George > Mike Bohn. And we have first class facilities instead of a claim that we will one day have first class facilities. And we're bad, but not "worst P5 team in the country bad" like we were after Embree. We can attract a name coach now if we are willing to spend. The right guy can get us to a bowl game next year. Obviously it helps with Les Miles that he's been here and he knows how great Boulder is. I trust RG to sell the school to whomever he may decide to target whether it's this year or next.
DrunkPanda
Well-Known Member
Les Miles would be awesome but I think that's a pipe dream. But if we did get Miles, I think we'd have a top 10 recruiting class within a year. D.J. Durkin would be another awesome choice but also would be a long shot, he's probably going to have a lot more attractive options than us to pick from. Jim Leavitt would make me excited and would probably be a lock to take the job, if offered. Giving MM another year feels to me like it would be a deja vu of Hawkins' lame duck year. These constant close losses would be a lot easier for me to stomach if we were actually recruiting well. But we're not... at all.
So yeah we have a lot of close losses, but what indications are there that these will start turning into close wins? Will they just magically start to happen? The Pac 12 is severely down this year and yet we've only won one conference game. I think if we had last year's team with this year's schedule, we'd be going bowling this season
So yeah we have a lot of close losses, but what indications are there that these will start turning into close wins? Will they just magically start to happen? The Pac 12 is severely down this year and yet we've only won one conference game. I think if we had last year's team with this year's schedule, we'd be going bowling this season
