Sure. There are stock options and bonuses, along with great benefits like 401(k) matching. But coaches and ADs also earn shoe deal money and other endorsements through their jobs that we don't count.
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If universities cut Varsity sports and go Club for most offerings, what should CU offer as Varsity with scholarships and NIL?
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That’s fine. My point is that those stock options and bonuses typically put those executives into the 7 or 8 figures on an annual basis, so I don’t really buy the idea that coaches are paid more than those positions. Being an executive at a mid to large company is one of the most lucrative professions in the world.
Now that Frida and Wetta graduated, I couldn't tell you the name of a single player on the women's basketball team.
I have known the names and something about every single player in the WBB program since the day the program started.
The transfer portal has done more damage for me than NIL, but there is no college student who deserves to be paid millions of dollars.
The Olympic sports will be cut or forced to choose where to specialize. It's already happened at CU with Track and Field. The only All American CU had this spring in track is a Decathalete. HIs coach is gone. She coached him at the nationals.
I have known the names and something about every single player in the WBB program since the day the program started.
The transfer portal has done more damage for me than NIL, but there is no college student who deserves to be paid millions of dollars.
The Olympic sports will be cut or forced to choose where to specialize. It's already happened at CU with Track and Field. The only All American CU had this spring in track is a Decathalete. HIs coach is gone. She coached him at the nationals.
BuffWarHogFrog
Just be rad
College baseball is my second favorite sport behind college football. This year’s NCAA tournament leading in the college World Series was absolutely off the chain.
They get some great and rowdy crowds at some of the regionals and super regionals in the SEC and ACC schools. Not really sure about places like UCLA or Oregon State. UCLA probably not but I'm sure Oregon State draws well. Also I heard this morning that Oregon State had to play 75% of their games on the road this year because of the Pac12 situation.
BuffWarHogFrog
Just be rad
Yep. As a new-Fangled TCU fan, I was hoping Oregon State wouldn’t know how to play in their own stadium during the regional.
Yes, and the average s&p 500 company generates $34,611 Million in revenue.
Compare that to the revenue a college football team generates, and then look at coach salaries again.
Not a particular criticism leveled at anyone, but I really don't think most Americans truly understand how big the average s&p 500 company really is. They actually think running a college football team and running a big company are comparable jobs.
If a college coach does a bad job the fans are disapointed, some assistant coaches get fired, and they sell a few less tickets.
If a fortune 500 CEO does a bad job a lot of people's retirement savings take a hit, hundreds or thousands of workers can lose their jobs, and the business can even go out.
It's interesting when people complain that CEO's are overpaid but have no problem with coaches, athletes, actors, etc. making similar money.
BlackNGold
Club Member
Lawsuits filed over the settlement. Title IX is going to test revenue distribution by value vs everyone gets the same. Right now it only impacts the $2.8B settlement but the precedent may impact distributions going forward, IMO. $2.4B is slated to go to men with $120M going to women.
I have questioned if the current model of college athletics is sustainable with revenue sharing and NIL. I have seen many posters on this board say they do not want to donate anymore because of the transfer portal and NIL structure. Some schools will have the deep pocketed donors but overall, I think most schools are going to struggle in this arms race. CU even with Coach prime had to put in $30M of school support to the Athletic depart last year, as belts start tightening overall I think the academic side of the house is going to be making noise about putting those resources into the AD.
Title IX is going to be an issue until the law is changed. I have also heard it is very unlikely that congress will give the NCAA anti-trust protection.
I have questioned if the current model of college athletics is sustainable with revenue sharing and NIL. I have seen many posters on this board say they do not want to donate anymore because of the transfer portal and NIL structure. Some schools will have the deep pocketed donors but overall, I think most schools are going to struggle in this arms race. CU even with Coach prime had to put in $30M of school support to the Athletic depart last year, as belts start tightening overall I think the academic side of the house is going to be making noise about putting those resources into the AD.
Title IX is going to be an issue until the law is changed. I have also heard it is very unlikely that congress will give the NCAA anti-trust protection.
Until someone sues and makes it to where the window is Jan 1 - Dec 31.
Money
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Explain "deserves" to me.
Isn't a College Football Player or Basketball Player a "Performer"?
If someone is training at Julliard and they are the greatest Dancer or Musician of all time and they can slide over to a national concert or show and they do 12 shows and make $3 Million, does that bother you?
BlackNGold
Club Member
Apples and Oranges - your example is a student working outside the school to make money, not equivalent to working for the school and making the money. The other poster's point is opinion. I am of the opinion if someone will pay it then you are worth it.
I think and I have said it over and over that the Football Program should be a Public-Private-Partnership in coordination with the School and the Facilties, but should function independently in a more Benefit Corporation Model where it can maintain the academics (Julliard), but include the high value Performer/Contributor (Doctor/Athlete/Researcher)
Go to the School and earn a degree in areas that benefit your development
Play at the School's on campus facility because it is an environment enhancement for the community and the rest of the student body and alums
When they are performing/competing, they get paid a value equal to that performance related to TV, Social Media, etc.
We are so close and yet so far away from something great, but all these overzealous asshat boosters and old guard want to keep making a mockery of how any good sports league should run with equal footing on most all competitive outings, rather than uneven programs.
Artificial NIL is not right if that was the main argument, but that is a product of the overall current structure where the major players are condoning it
BlackNGold
Club Member
I don't know what will happen with college athletics. The problem for a long time is that Football at most P4 schools brings in most of the revenue - Men's BB brings in a small amount for most schools and the other programs are sucking the system dry - it is a socialistic system that has prevailed since 1972 when Title IX was enacted. Now the supreme court ruling and the House Settlement are saying it is a merit system based on the athletes perceived value. The star QB will get more than the 3rd string punter (a lot more).
Today there is so much money (mostly from football) that everyone is wanting a piece. But if it is a merit system, some are going to left out because there is not enough to go around. If you pay the QB $7 Million how much is left for the women's soccer goalie.
When CU had baseball, Irv Brown ran the program on a shoestring - partial scholarships, scheduling many teams that were a bus ride away, then he would go to Jack Vickers and Bob Six to kick in enough money for the program to break even. That was then and this is now. I see in the future that many of the Olympic sports are going to go away or carve out Football as a private enterprise and have the other sports going to a more amateur model. How do small schools do it - I think at those institutions many kids are happy to have a partial scholarship in a sport.
I just see a lot of twists and turns and probably 5-10 years to sort it out if ever.