I’m not sure how much we’re willing to pay.I'm not quite sure I'd feel comfortable saying that yet. There's only so many of those coaches that are available any given year, and we definitely don't pay at elite levels.
I’m not sure how much we’re willing to pay.I'm not quite sure I'd feel comfortable saying that yet. There's only so many of those coaches that are available any given year, and we definitely don't pay at elite levels.
Totally agree...over paying some retread like Sumlin and we know CU isn't going poaching.I'm not quite sure I'd feel comfortable saying that yet. There's only so many of those coaches that are available any given year, and we definitely don't pay at elite levels.
I feel like Dr. Phil threw them both under the bus instead of taking responsibility -- despite him being the person who actually knew the policy and gave RG & MM the wrong direction. All I can say about that which might be a positive is that it could result in Phil giving payback by being about the most supportive Chancellor we could hope for. Especially since he's now tied his legacy and reputation to the athletic department by publicly taking credit for RG's work and then agreeing to become Chair of the new Pac-12 revenue committee.CU did not have MikeMac’s back when they should have. CU tarnished MikeMac and RG’s reputations when CU should have taken the fall. I am basing this off the posts on this site about how he followed the correct procedures to which he was trained, but CU held him to a standard to which he wasn’t even trained. If I'm MikeMac, I’m still pissed. Hard to work for someone you can’t trust.
If this post is off base, then someone please let me know.
Well, he accepted the extension when he could have said no and walked after this year.CU did not have MikeMac’s back when they should have. CU tarnished MikeMac and RG’s reputations when CU should have taken the fall. I am basing this off the posts on this site about how he followed the correct procedures to which he was trained, but CU held him to a standard to which he wasn’t even trained. If I'm MikeMac, I’m still pissed. Hard to work for someone you can’t trust.
If this post is off base, then someone please let me know.
I will never understand the apparent desire to rid ourselves of the most successful coach we have had in years.
I could see MM leaving after this season if CU keeps winning, and I’ll take Chev as HC in a heartbeatWorry about what - who he’s going to hire for his staff after MM leaves? I’m probably too optimistic, but I envision a scenario where MM goes back home and Chiv takes this program to a new level with better recruiting.
Arky just cast their lot with Morris. They won't be making a move for at least 3 years. Ditto Tennessee IIRC.With Jay graduating soon, one set of handcuffs come off.
MacIntyre came into Boulder with the reputation as a re-builder: Mission accomplished. He won the P12 South. He claimed CoTY.
MacIntyre’s agent has a lot with which to work to make Coach wealthier.
Proud programs like Tennessee or Arkansas might be looking for a turn-around artist, and both have brinks trucks full of cash to offer.
Colorado comes across a either a stepping stone or a graveyard for coaching careers.
When opportunity comes knocking, and it does come knocking, it is going to take a love of community, a good relationship with his university bosses, and a fair counter offer to retain MacIntyre.
Additional pressures exist, including the retention of Rick George, who is getting offers of his own to explore (eg Illinois). Also the clock is winding down on the careers of President Benson and Chancellor DiStephano. A change at higher levels of the org chart has the potential to nudge MacIntyre one way or the other.
There seems to be a comfy equilibrium right now. The fans, CU leadership, and MacIntyre appear to be in a good place. The facilities are great. The stadium is filling up. The team is competing and finally looking like a P5 tream makes top 25 appearances.
My hope is for MacIntyre to dream of a winning record while af CU, getting the USC monkey off CU’s back, a Rose Bowl victory, a P12 championship, a playoff run, and the use of Boulder as fertile ground to develop his coaching tree.
I love what Chev is doing as a recruiter and OC. But I have doubts about how connected Chev is when it comes to developing a Rolodex full of quality assistants and coordinators of his own (Like MacIntyre has with Cutcliff). It would be cool for Chev to take a few years under Sabin as an OC, get another network to draw upon, and then return to CU as a super connected HC after MacIntyre nabs a natty around 2023.
This!I hope he stays, I just do not think he is irreplaceable. Gus Malzahn should be a cautionary tale here.
This!
The idea he is the only option at CU for success is absurd. I’ve often said, and I still hold this opinion, he may be like Tommy Bowden at Clemson. Righted the ship and had success but couldn’t break through.
And I would still be thankful for Mac’s time here and what he accomplished.
Yes, CU is not a top 10 “destination” school but, with what Mac has put into the program, I would say it’s arguably top 25, and with that CU can look nation wide for not only a good fit but a coach that has some “street cred”, for lack of a better phrase.
You’re going to have to ask Rick George that question. I would be willing to bet that would be his goal.Would they go get a " Big time" coach?
It's looking like we are in a good situation. This off-season will be fine one way or anotherwin, win, win. it cures everything.
oh, and i wouldn't worry too much about whether CU is going to pay -- they will pay-- either mm or someone else... this is not a deal where CU will try to go to sec numbers but CU will be competitive in salary.
I call bull**** on the “Colorado is aWith Jay graduating soon, one set of handcuffs come off.
MacIntyre came into Boulder with the reputation as a re-builder: Mission accomplished. He won the P12 South. He claimed CoTY.
MacIntyre’s agent has a lot with which to work to make Coach wealthier.
Proud programs like Tennessee or Arkansas might be looking for a turn-around artist, and both have brinks trucks full of cash to offer.
Colorado comes across a either a stepping stone or a graveyard for coaching careers.
When opportunity comes knocking, and it does come knocking, it is going to take a love of community, a good relationship with his university bosses, and a fair counter offer to retain MacIntyre.
Additional pressures exist, including the retention of Rick George, who is getting offers of his own to explore (eg Illinois). Also the clock is winding down on the careers of President Benson and Chancellor DiStephano. A change at higher levels of the org chart has the potential to nudge MacIntyre one way or the other.
There seems to be a comfy equilibrium right now. The fans, CU leadership, and MacIntyre appear to be in a good place. The facilities are great. The stadium is filling up. The team is competing and finally looking like a P5 tream makes top 25 appearances.
My hope is for MacIntyre to dream of a winning record while af CU, getting the USC monkey off CU’s back, a Rose Bowl victory, a P12 championship, a playoff run, and the use of Boulder as fertile ground to develop his coaching tree.
I love what Chev is doing as a recruiter and OC. But I have doubts about how connected Chev is when it comes to developing a Rolodex full of quality assistants and coordinators of his own (Like MacIntyre has with Cutcliff). It would be cool for Chev to take a few years under Sabin as an OC, get another network to draw upon, and then return to CU as a super connected HC after MacIntyre nabs a natty around 2023.
I call bull**** on the “Colorado is a
stepping stone” bull****.
All of college football?Wait. We are 5-0 and people are talking about who is gonna replace Mac? What am I missing?
Wait. We are 5-0 and people are talking about who is gonna replace Mac? What am I missing?
Good point...honestly I just kinda skimmedAre you actually reading the posts?
Maybe. But some more than others. CSU and Wyoming fit my definition of “stepping stone” jobs. CU certainly could be but it depends on the coach.Most college football jobs are stepping stones.
Maybe. But some more than others. CSU and Wyoming fit my definition of “stepping stone” jobs. CU certainly could be but it depends on the coach.
Would they go get a " Big time" coach?
Yes, CU is not a top 10 “destination” school but, with what Mac has put into the program, I would say it’s arguably top 25, and with that CU can look nation wide for not only a good fit but a coach that has some “street cred”, for lack of a better phrase.
I think he's still got work to do here but if things pan out he'll go back home. He is after all a southern Christian conservative living in Boulder.So should we be worried about potential openings at Louisville, wake forest, North Carolina and Georgia tech? I could see him being interested in all of those other than wake forest.
I think that’s fair. However, I said it was arguably a top 25 job and there are definitely some programs in the ACC/SEC that would not be greener pastures for Mac.I don't think it is Top 25 yet but it will be by the time Mac leaves for the greener pastures of the SEC or ACC.
His youngest is a sophomore, i think he is at CU; not on the team.His kids have graduated from CU. Someone with cash to burn will throw money at him.
His youngest is a sophomore, i think he is at CU; not on the team.