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Is the Stanford run coming to an end?

Have to think it might be. The Harbaugh transformation was a significant change from the norm. Hard to believe Stanford could recruit at the level they were with the academic requirements.

Not sure the run is over, but can see them returning to a .500 team in a good year over the course of the next five years.


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I hope so. I'm tired of losing to those nerds. I'm hoping we get them back on the schedule at just the right time for the next two years. I'd LOVE to make the trip back to Palo Alto in 2016 feeling like we have a legit chance of winning.
 
Darth Snow said:
someone in the P12 needs to stumble besides us, and soon.
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There are cycles to this stuff and I think we're seeing some good signs.

Most of the North is falling off.

Oregon, for example, is having an amazing year but if you look deeper at it you see a team with a defense that has fallen dramatically off without Alioti coordinating and not having the same level of playmakers at the skill positions. It's Mariota and a lot of speed in a winning culture. Next year will be telling.

Oregon State might actually fire Mike Riley after this season.

Washington has lost like 4 of 5 and the jury's out on Petersen there.

Wazzu slipped badly from last year's breakout bowl season.

Cal looks to be improving a lot, but Dykes and defense don't mix so there's a ceiling there.

Arizona and Arizona State will be good as long as those coaches stay.

USC is poised to return to dominance next year.

UCLA is showing some *****s in the armor. They're having a nice season, but it wasn't anywhere close to what was expected in Hundley's final season.

Utah's got a gamer at QB in Wilson. The big question there will be whether Dave Christensen will stick around as OC or if he gets another HC offer.

Anyway, with next year seeing so much QB turnover in the Pac-12 it will be a good season to make a move.
 
'Tini said:
Yes, Shaw is extremely overrated
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Only because he insists in running that pro-style "O" without the current personnel to do it---starting with that mediocre nobody at QB, in Hogan. (just like another stubborn coach we know and loathe). I'm not sure Hogan starts anywhere else in a P5 program.
 
Buffnik said:
There are cycles to this stuff and I think we're seeing some good signs.

Most of the North is falling off.

Oregon, for example, is having an amazing year but if you look deeper at it you see a team with a defense that has fallen dramatically off without Alioti coordinating and not having the same level of playmakers at the skill positions. It's Mariota and a lot of speed in a winning culture. Next year will be telling.

Oregon State might actually fire Mike Riley after this season.

Washington has lost like 4 of 5 and the jury's out on Petersen there.

Wazzu slipped badly from last year's breakout bowl season.

Cal looks to be improving a lot, but Dykes and defense don't mix so there's a ceiling there.

Arizona and Arizona State will be good as long as those coaches stay.

USC is poised to return to dominance next year.

UCLA is showing some *****s in the armor. They're having a nice season, but it wasn't anywhere close to what was expected in Hundley's final season.

Utah's got a gamer at QB in Wilson. The big question there will be whether Dave Christensen will stick around as OC or if he gets another HC offer.

Anyway, with next year seeing so much QB turnover in the Pac-12 it will be a good season to make a move.
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I am not sure the Oregon fall off will be next year as I can easily see them winning 10 games. They will have a very deep and veteran OL with what may be the best RB tandem in the country. The QB just has to be decent as he will hand the ball of 45 times a game and throw it to a very good/speedy group of receivers. The defense is a question mark, but I think a lot of the struggles are because we took a lifetime DL coach and made him a DC. Its quite a steep learning curve for a guy who was not expecting the job.
 
There is also less then 0% chance that OSU fires Riley.

Next year will be very interesting however with all the changes at QB we will see in the league.
 
Not easy to dominate consistently through cycles of players and coaches coming and going. Very few teams have done it recently. Stating the obvious, all teams go through cycles, even the big boys: USC, Texas, Florida (now and before Meyer), Michigan, Bama before Saban, Florida State before current coach and QB, Miami, Nebraska, etc. The list goes on and on. The real question is will they cycle back up. The big boys do it. Is Stanford a big boy or was it just a one time run with Harbaugh (sp?)?
 
Colorado Track Fan said:
Not easy to dominate consistently through cycles of players and coaches coming and going. Very few teams have done it recently. Stating the obvious, all teams go through cycles, even the big boys: USC, Texas, Florida (now and before Meyer), Michigan, Bama before Saban, Florida State before current coach and QB, Miami, Nebraska, etc. The list goes on and on. The real question is will they cycle back up. The big boys do it. Is Stanford a big boy or was it just a one time run with Harbaugh (sp?)?
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Broooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
I would much rather have Stanford winning the PAC north than of Oregon. I can't stand Oregon with all of their bandwagon fans. Great thing about Stanford is their recruiting is national so they listen the burden on California recruiting.
 
onealcd said:
I would much rather have Stanford winning the PAC north than of Oregon. I can't stand Oregon with all of their bandwagon fans. Great thing about Stanford is their recruiting is national so they listen the burden on California recruiting.
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Stanford doesn't deserve their success
 
I'm honestly looking forward to having 10,000 CU fans in the stands in Palo Alto to witness an epic beat down of the trees. Not sure exactly how long that will take. But I hope to be among that group when it does.
 
Do they have any difficulty recruiting? Top notch facilities? Reputation diminished?

Nope. And thus, nope.

CU can get there. Stanford was totally on the ropes, kinda similar in terms of success and facilities not so long ago.
 
Stanford has really high volatility as a program in terms of their performance. It isn't just now, that's historically been true. They will have a great run of 2-5 years, followed by 2-5 years of absolute ****, rinse, repeat.

They've never just been consistently average, or above average, or good, or bad; they are all over the place. They really do fit in with the culture of the valley: fail big or win big.

I think they're about to enter a fail big phase.
 
CanadianDuck said:
I am not sure the Oregon fall off will be next year as I can easily see them winning 10 games. They will have a very deep and veteran OL with what may be the best RB tandem in the country. The QB just has to be decent as he will hand the ball of 45 times a game and throw it to a very good/speedy group of receivers. The defense is a question mark, but I think a lot of the struggles are because we took a lifetime DL coach and made him a DC. Its quite a steep learning curve for a guy who was not expecting the job.
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We never saw the drop off coming either when it happened. Neuheisel had inherited a top 5 program from McCartney and proceeded to have two nice 10 win seasons to start out his tenure. His 3rd year Colorado was ranked in the top 5 and expected to compete for the national championship. The team was loaded with talent and playmakers. We then had our first losing season in over 10 years. It happens to everybody.
 
'Tini said:
At least they support the team as fans
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Dumb post. It's easy to support a team that blows people out 9 times out of 10. I'd argue Colorado has the better fans as our fans were still filling the stadium over 90% capacity during the first 7 or 8 years of crap football of the last decade.
 
buffedup said:
Dumb post. It's easy to support a team that blows people out 9 times out of 10. I'd argue Colorado has the better fans as our fans were still filling the stadium over 90% capacity during the first 7 or 8 years of crap football of the last decade.
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Well if you'll read above you'll see my intention that Stanford does not deserve a top 5 team because of their ****ty fans who can't even support a winning team
 
'Tini said:
Well if you'll read above you'll see my intention that Stanford does not deserve a top 5 team because of their ****ty fans who can't even support a winning team
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There is the angry guy. He hates Sanford fans. Is there anything under the sun that escapes his derision?
 
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