Idot Buff
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If Josh was not wearing a cup, then it is likely he will not be able to father children.....
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Josh Smith getting cheap shot
- Thread starter FightCu1414
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heh ... thanks:smile2:
Coloradosker
Active Member
Absolutely no place for that kind of stuff in this game. Even if it was a legal hit, the guy is completely unprotected in that area of his body. Hopefully this gets addressed with these refs because that could lead to broken bones or internal damage to his organs. No excuses.
2HellNback
Well-Known Member
From my angle at the game, I thought it was his knee. Watching the replay saturday night 6 times (and hawk's reaction another 10 times) it was clear that it was not the knee. YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID??????
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HE WAS INJURED... INJURED BAD.
Buttermaker
Active Member
Hawkins actually has a history with these type hits when he was at Boise. A hit on a Boise kid actually led to the strengthening of the "Halo" rule (has since been removed). Regardless if Josh called a fair catch or not, the kid should have been kicked out and I will be surprised if Hawk lets this drop.
Here is the article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/ivan_maisel/news/2002/03/20/maisel_insider/
Here is the article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/ivan_maisel/news/2002/03/20/maisel_insider/
Mr. Babar
I have no elephant books
:rofl2:that is:rofl2:freakin hilarious:rofl2: (Side note: agreed; the K-State player who did this was a dou*** who has no business playing the game.)
BIGREDIOWAN
Well-Known Member
Man that's totally uncalled for, that guy should've been tossed out of the game for that crap.
But the ball wasn't anywhere near him. How do you determine who is the return man and who is a blocker?
Highflyer
Club Member
Are you freaking serious?
ummm... start with at the beginning of the play.... see who the closest person is to the endzone in the direction that the kick is being made.
I think you might be correct 100% of the time.
I'm not saying the hit wasn't dirty. I'm just saying that if a player does not signal a fair catch and the ball is not going to land anywhere near him, you must be able to hit him as he has essentially become a blocker, right?
Highflyer
Club Member
So are you talking about Smith or just some hypothetical situation?
I'm talking about what happened with Smith
No, that'd be holding. 10 yard penalty.
The punt returner gets special protection by virtue of his position, just like a QB. A defensive end cannot lay into a QB after a pass and argue the QB might be a blocker. Same concept. The punt returner is vulnerable and thus is protected from cheap shots.
He can after an interception is thrown and the situation has changed. Once a kick returner decides to let the ball go over his head in hopes of it going into the end zone he becomes a blocker trying to keep the punting team from getting to the ball, no?
The guys covering punts know who the returner is, and head straight for him from the time the ball is snapped(hint: its the guy all alone at the other end of the field looking up into the sky for the ball). And even if that KjSU guy thought Josh Smith was a blocker, he would have tried to get around him, not throw his helmut into his crotch like a d*uche. That KjSU guy knew perfectly well what he doing. Typical KjSU.
In that situation the kick returner usually has signaled fair catch, which is a agreement that the receiving team will not attempt to advance the ball. Any attempts to advance the ball after a fair catch is a 5 yard penalty.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
I believe the returner also is penalized if he blocks after calling for a fair catch.
Highflyer
Club Member
This is correct
buffsfan01
Member
i watch the buffs, game after game,i think the refs in the big 12 has the worst refs out there in any conference including the pac 10.. that # 81 for kansas state should have been tossed from the game...remember the florida state game big 12 refs sucked that game as well wish i could watch a fair game being called during a cu game doubt that will ever happen !!!!!!! rush on scott......