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Ladies and gentlemen, the Prime effect
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I never even knew CP had a reality show, but - from what I have seen of the two youngest sons - this seems true enough.
Vick's the greatest athlete I've ever seen play the QB position. One of those few guys at the NFL level I've seen regularly make plays where all you can do is shake your head and acknowledge that there's no defense for what he just pulled off.
Always makes me smile listening to CP and his guests talking about the misconception of the weather in Colorado
Didn’t he go to UCLA too?
Travis' reaction was great! Also a great reminder that these two are still kids.
JMBuffs
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Maybe we should be asking our selves why he named his first son Deion?
Anybody notice that even after college football is done, the NFL just keeps on playing?
This calls for a new thread!
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I’m actually going to disagree.
Mike Vick really seemed to change after the dog fighting and prison. Based on what I’ve seen, he seems to have rehabilitated for the better.
Bridge building and goats and whatnot.
People like you are afraid to challenge CP in any way. It shows on the OT and TO calls (among others) in a few games.
(and in a lot of posts)
CP has earned a "C" as a gameday coach
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Someone willing to do what he did for as long as he did, and then act like it was no big deal UNTIL he went to jail for it, don't just magically change.
Something about a tiger and stripes.
Sorry, some things are unforgivable.
It’s not magic. It’s hard work and therapy. From every account of anyone who knows Vick, he’s a changed person.
let me give a small amount of context and perspective you may have not considered. I'm not defending the dogfighting.
Vick grew up in Newport News, VA, in an poor community in which not only was dog fighting common, but illegal activities around it were perceived as part of life. Listening to multiple interviews with him, he viewed the illegality of dogfighting the way my family viewed speeding -- "NBD, just try not to get caught".
in his community, dogs weren't pets -- dogs were a way to make money and have entertainment.
Then, during high school and college, Vick achieves success far beyond anything he or his parents ever dreamed of. while other players put their money and time into fancy cars and jewelry, MV put his focus on dogs. it was an activity he had come to enjoy over his young life.
nobody in a role model position had ever taught him a moral code against it. his friends and family were still involved and passionate about it.
I understand, for most of us having a different paradigm, that it's natural to think the practice of killing animals for fun is evil and struggle to imagine why anyone would want to do it. Especially for dog lovers. But looking at it through Vick's upbringing gives it a different perspective -- at least for me.
An analogy I'd use are prairie dogs in Boulder. If I build new construction in Boulder, I'm required by law to humanely relocate the animals. My wife's employer spent $10k's (don't recall the exact number) doing this eight years ago. Many people view prairie dogs as an animal undeserving of humane treatment, certainly if it would cost a lot of money. Some of those people would have no objection to destroying the colony and hoping the cops don't find out, in order to save money on construction, while others passionately believe that humane relocation is a completely sensible and appropriate thing to do. The key difference seems to be whether or not the animal is normally thought of us a pet, or as a living thing deserving of continued life, or something less.
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Gotta give the guy credit for the hard work he put in. He became a better person for it. That’s a positive trajectory that can be an example for others.
We have former college coaches who become politicians and go backwards instead of forward. Vick is headed in the right direction here.