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Everyone in the top 7 controls their own destiny.
Even OSU. Possibly.
I don't see them jumping a 1-loss Alabama so they'd need a little help.
These rankings are going to look drastically different in a few weeks. This could also be the year a 2 loss team makes it.
Badgers were never going to be in with one loss, but they will be in if they win out. Guaranteed.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the Badgers being #5, especially with Clemson and Miami ahead of them.
They control their own destiny just as much as anyone else in the top 7, as Carolina said.
I'd say, if they win out, they'll be in the 2/3 range, and at least avoid Alabama for the first game. (Obviously I'm assuming Bama wins out.)
They control their own destiny just as much as anyone else in the top 7, as Carolina said.
I'd say, if they win out, they'll be in the 2/3 range, and at least avoid Alabama for the first game. (Obviously I'm assuming Bama wins out.)
They are one spot out. As mentioned above, they control their own destiny.
The biggest travesty is Clemson over OU. Clemson has a few good wins, but OU has double digit wins over three top 13 teams and only lost to Iowa State who was in top 15 at the time.
AllStarBuffs
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If Clemson beats Miami we could see another Clemson Bama championship
ahoelsken
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I'm not. I'd argue USC's win over Stanford is better than anything Penn State has
Yeah, Penn State is the most overrated team in the top 10
PSU did blow out Michigan. I think that's pretty equivalent to whipping Stanford this year.
Just looking at the losses, PSU lost by 1 point and 3 points on the road to OSU and MSU, respectively. I can understand looking at that and shading them ahead of a USC that lost by 3 at Wazzu (comparable) but lost by 35 at Notre Dame.
I've seen no indication that the number of conference games is a factor at all. It appears to me that the committee evaluates the quality of the entire schedule without respect to whether a given game is against a conference opponent. this approach seems correct to me.
digging in a bit:
Alabama has played OOC games against: FSU, Fresno State and CSU.
FSU is having a horrible year, but is a P5 team.
Fresno is 7-3, first in their division, 56th in RPI, 65th in ESPN Power Poll (ranked ahead of several P5 teams, including a few from the SEC)
CSU is 6-5. 81st in RPI and 70th in
Auburn, OTOH, has played OOC games against: GA Southern, Clemson, and Mercer, losing the one to a P5 school. I agree this is weak; scheduling any two SEC teams over those schools would be a clear improvement.
Your post implies that if 'Bama replaced with CSU or Fresno with Florida or Mizzou, that they would be more deserving of the ranking despite the scheduled teams being higher ranked -- do I have that right? if so, assuming the quality of the opponents is roughly equivalent, why do you feel scheduling more conference games should be preferred by the committee over scheduling non-conf teams?
digging in a bit:
Alabama has played OOC games against: FSU, Fresno State and CSU.
FSU is having a horrible year, but is a P5 team.
Fresno is 7-3, first in their division, 56th in RPI, 65th in ESPN Power Poll (ranked ahead of several P5 teams, including a few from the SEC)
CSU is 6-5. 81st in RPI and 70th in
Auburn, OTOH, has played OOC games against: GA Southern, Clemson, and Mercer, losing the one to a P5 school. I agree this is weak; scheduling any two SEC teams over those schools would be a clear improvement.
Your post implies that if 'Bama replaced with CSU or Fresno with Florida or Mizzou, that they would be more deserving of the ranking despite the scheduled teams being higher ranked -- do I have that right? if so, assuming the quality of the opponents is roughly equivalent, why do you feel scheduling more conference games should be preferred by the committee over scheduling non-conf teams?
There is an aggregate effect to consider here. One more conference game gives a higher probability of a loss than the BS November non-conference games which SEC teams conveniently work into the schedule.
Yeah, but most of them schedule one pretty solid OOC game. Bama vs FSU, Auburn vs Clemson, Florida vs Michigan, Georgia vs ND, etc. It's basically the same schedule as CU and Washington have this year with 3 OOC patsies. Granted, they schedule one of those patsies for late in the season, but the overall schedule is similar.
But Washington is rightfully blasted for the SOS. Alabama gets a number one ranking. The whole point is the SEC seems to get extra credit for a tough OOC game.
Bama definitely gets the BOTD, but I honestly have no real problem with that. Their closest game was a 7 point win against a top 20 Miss State team.
SEC and Big10 games count more than Pac games, it's as simple as that.
We need the Pac to win a championship again and drive the narrative rather than let ESPN diminish our conference.
We also need a commish who understands that we cannot kill ourselves with conference scheduling the way we have been. We are doing ourselves no favors when it comes to conference scheduling.Get rid of the nine games, equalize bye weeks and equalize opponents coming off bye weeks for a good start.
We need the Pac to win a championship again and drive the narrative rather than let ESPN diminish our conference.
We also need a commish who understands that we cannot kill ourselves with conference scheduling the way we have been. We are doing ourselves no favors when it comes to conference scheduling.Get rid of the nine games, equalize bye weeks and equalize opponents coming off bye weeks for a good start.
But that is what I am trying to get at... Mississippi State is getting BOTD by being a "quality" win for Bama, Auburn, and Georgia. They have one win against a Top 25 team and no one even blinks when they stay in exactly the same spot after losing to Bama.
That's fair, but it's part of a circular argument. Should MSU be ranked lower than 16th (best 3 loss team) with their 3 losses coming against #1, #6 and #7? To me, that's a fairly good win for those programs, but I see your point. As I said, I think Bama deserves the BOTD until they lose.
You think Auburn beats Bama?