No kidding.
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let us reminisce on DJ eliot's qualifications to earn 700K at CU
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No kidding.
lvbuff
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Fire coach! Gotta love fandom.
Is it possible that the coaches had a plan?
Is it possible that some of the athletes were to slow to execute the plan?
The coaches recruit those athletes. Eliot will not be fired anytime soon, but if you seriously think all the coaches on this team are doing a good job, maybe you should dig a little deeper.
lvbuff
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Please tell me where I said the coaches were doing a good job. Maybe you need to quit being a jerk.
You seem to think anyone advocating any firings is really dumb. You even made a whole thread about it.
mke1010
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First of all, when I was at CU, we were dominating year in year out. Hence my expectation maybe a bit out of kilt with yours.
For you to find 27 points acceptable says a lot about the standards at CU. While 27 points against an NFL caliber QB isn't shameful, our inability to stop them on 3rd Down was.
Any time we needed a stop at a key juncture in the game, anytime the game was at a critical point, UCLA moved the chains.
That's on Elliott.
I hvnt argued that the offense has performed well. To the contrary. The OLine is an enigma. Up and down performances against the expectation that this was the strongest unit on the team. QB and Receivers hv been inconsistent. But long term, I dnt think CU is in trouble on Offense the way it is shaping up to be on Defense with Elliott in charge.
Questionable hire when he was brought in and beginning to look like a disaster of a hire by the day.
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mke1010
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Yes, the offense lost the UCLA game. You are making an argument for a conclusion not in contention.
What I said is that UCLA exposed what I expect to be long term trend of Elliott being incompetent at this level.
The performance on 3rd down was putrid. Had it been half way decent, we win that game. I stand by that statement.
Having said that, it doesn't mean Defense was more to blame than Offense for the loss.
lvbuff
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I think it is typical fandom.
Go to every fan board where a top 25 team got beat. You can bet that their fans are saying fire the coach same as CU fans
It's absurd on a game by game basis.
A suggestion for you: quit the personal attacks on posters. You are only mod that does it.
I have not made any personal attack on you. I replied to your posts.
And I get it can be absurd to hear complaining about coaches, but last night was a really bad defensive performance. People being mad is to be expected.
Bingo, this isn't on any one group. It's players and coaches to **** up this bad. Watch the film, maybe, then kill it with fire.
hawg1
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Tate and RR were locked in and confident.
Call a play. But it really didn’t matter. Just stroll to line, look at D, look at RR, change play or keep play, clap... then BOOM.
Same exact thing UDub did checking to runs to soft guard.
Did you see one single line adjustment or D adjustment pre-snap while on the ball?
Child’s play.
Call a play. But it really didn’t matter. Just stroll to line, look at D, look at RR, change play or keep play, clap... then BOOM.
Same exact thing UDub did checking to runs to soft guard.
Did you see one single line adjustment or D adjustment pre-snap while on the ball?
Child’s play.
Too much truth here, batten down the hatches, incoming....
jkppkjjkp
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I think he meant P5, not FBS opponents.
Last 5 games against P5 opponents.
Washington L 10-41
Ok. State L 8-38
Washington L 10-37
@UCLA L 23-27
Arizona L 42-45
That's 5 losses giving up 37.6 points per game.
jkppkjjkp
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27 points is somewhat mediocre in 2017. Coastal Carolina is averaging 27.0 ppg, and ranks 84th out of 130 FBS teams in scoring offense.
I think a bigger concern with Eliot is that his position group is struggling getting a pass rush and setting the edge. Saturday night was no doubt a disaster defensively and we will see if that continues or if it was a bad night against a different offensive system but I don't think anyone can sit here and say all is good right now. Also, if Mac was telling the offensive coordinators to run the ball more for the rest of the game then why didn't he get more involved in the defensive adjustments at half time? Sub out Moeller for an actual linebacker and see if they have more success against the run game. Makes no sense to not stack the box and make Tate throw the ball.
yep, I kept waiting for that.
I'm not sure about this one boys....last week everyone way saying what a great job Elliott was doing replacing Levitt. I think he deserves an entire season before the torches and pitchforks come out.
It is fair to criticize the coaches but the bolded is the issue, and no amount of coaching is going to change who we are right now.
We had three D-Linemen end up in NFL training camps off last years team. No they weren't great but they consistently won the line of scrimmage. This year we are repeatedly seeing teams push the LOS 3-5 yards off the ball before their backs encounter any traffic.
Of our LBs the only experienced LB we have who looks to be truly a P5 athlete is Lewis. I love Gamboa's heart and effort but he is a liability vs. the spread, doesn't have the speed to cover the amount of space required. McCartney is clearly not 100%. The freshmen look like they could be answers in the future but are still learning.
RichRod did to us what he has done to opponents for a long time. He identified our weaknesses and found ways to match a superior athlete against inferior athletes. We had no answer.
Nothing the coaches were going to do on Saturday was going to make our players better athletes. I do blame our coaches though for us being 5 years into a coaching regime and not having recruited the quality and quantity of athletes needed to compete. I specifically put the blame on us having a couple of assistant coaching positions occupied by guys who seem to be dead weight in recruiting. Unless you have a couple of other recruiting superstars who can make up for than you can't afford those guys, and we don't have the superstars.
Who would have replaced Moeller that would have actually help against their QB runs? It wasn't Stanford or USC going smash mouth; their run game requires so much more speed, athleticism and discipline to stop, and we don't have a bigger, more athletic player than Moeller. That is the exact offense a Buff Back is designed for. He just wasn't good enough.
You can try to sub in Sparaco to pretty much run a 5 man front with Lewis and Gamboa as the only standing linebackers right? Then put Worthington down at about 7 yards. Moeller was getting beat around the edge and was getting mauled straight up because of his size. I just thought the defense needed a little more power on Saturday, instead of letting Arizona dictate and move their line laterally we needed to more physical and keep those guys in the box.
If we had a nose who wasn't on roller skates the middle wouldn't have been an issue.
Yeah, they could have gone bigger and then brought a safety down in the box, but then that leaves a glaring hole in the passing game. I just don't think you combat that offense with size and numbers, unless you have some seriously disruptive DL. Oh, and at the end of the day, there isn't a player on CU's roster that is as dynamic as Tate. So many times, our guys were in position to make a play, and just couldn't. No adjustments can fix that.
Maybe not, just seems like you would want to stack the box and prevent Tate from getting outside to space. Physicality is always the best way to slow down these spread offenses that consistently move the tackle box horizontally. And at the end of the day you have to try something or else you end up having a night like we just did.
By the 3rd quarter it was pretty apparent that if we sat back we wouldn't get a stop. We needed to get aggressive and take some chances to make a stop. What was the worst that would happen? They'd burn us on a deep pass? How was that worse than their QB eating us alive 30 yards a rush.
Just a terribly called defense game. Absolutely terrible.