Let's talk about our defense

[FLounder]

Let’s not

 

[torero]

I think I saw Condescending Rubbish open for the Smashing Pumpkins on the pretentious assholes tour.

 

[Bison]

I'd save that talk until after the Nubs game.

 

[b3buffs]

I will say I was surprised at the number of missed tackles that led to big gains or first downs.

I don't blame the defense for 14 of those points that came after the Edwards fumble and long kickoff return.

 

[Hank]

Condescending rubbish is my alternate screen name.

 

[Hank]

If you don’t like condescending rubbish then I recommend you avoid the SUCK OUR DICKS thread.

Um, that's not rubbish. It's art.

 

[jaybird]

Bumping this. When I first posted it, I was just a bit unsure of Kelly, I now know I don't think he is right for the job.

Losing a game when you are up 29-0 at half, with all of the formation penalties we had is a very big problem.

Losing games like this is what got Kelly fired from FSU. He was an assistant at Alabama on his recruiting abilities. I don't have any confidence in him as DC.

 

[leftybuff]

Bumping this. When I first posted it, I was just a bit unsure of Kelly, I now know I don't think he is right for the job.

Losing a game when you are up 29-0 at half, with all of the formation penalties we had is a very big problem.

Losing games like this is what got Kelly fired from FSU. He was an assistant at Alabama on his recruiting abilities. I don't have any confidence in him as DC.

I dunno it's 12 one way, a dozen the other.

 

[96 Buff]

We need elite recruiters, Kelly historically has been one. The talent deficit is the biggest gap the Buffs need to close.

 

[leftybuff]

We need elite recruiters, Kelly historically has been one. The talent deficit is the biggest gap the Buffs need to close.

But if the elite recruits run a Benny Hill defense, does it matter?

 

[96 Buff]

Talent overcomes many many flaws in schemes. As much as we like to think that coaching is a huge part of the game, talent is far and away the biggest factor. My sense is Kelly's defense requires skills most on our current roster don't have. Now it's fair to say he should adjust some things to leverage what talent he has, but that still doesn't overcome the talent issue and players actually executing what they're supposed to do (like tackle, not miss assignments, not commit personal fouls, not jump offiside).

 

[skibum]

Talent overcomes many many flaws in schemes. As much as we like to think that coaching is a huge part of the game, talent is far and away the biggest factor. My sense is Kelly's defense requires skills most on our current roster don't have. Now it's fair to say he should adjust some things to leverage what talent he has, but that still doesn't overcome the talent issue and players actually executing what they're supposed to do (like tackle, not miss assignments, not commit personal fouls, not jump offiside).

The team with the better athletes wins the vast majority of games. This mean recruiting is the most important skill for the staff to have. Scheme, adjustments, gameplanning all take second place to recruiting.

If he lands some elite DL & LBs this cycle, he's good.

 

[Medford M.]

The team with the better athletes wins the vast majority of games. This mean recruiting is the most important skill for the staff to have. Scheme, adjustments, gameplanning all take second place to recruiting.

If he lands some elite DL & LBs this cycle, he's good.

Kelly failed with great recruits at Florida State. Kelly's scheme just sucks, and it's always sucked, and it will always suck.

He's a recruiting coordinator at the P5 level.

 

[leftybuff]

Talent overcomes many many flaws in schemes. As much as we like to think that coaching is a huge part of the game, talent is far and away the biggest factor. My sense is Kelly's defense requires skills most on our current roster don't have. Now it's fair to say he should adjust some things to leverage what talent he has, but that still doesn't overcome the talent issue and players actually executing what they're supposed to do (like tackle, not miss assignments, not commit personal fouls, not jump offiside).

I'd settle for consistent form tackling.

 

[Burrito]

I'd settle for consistent form tackling.

 

[HotRack]

Talent overcomes many many flaws in schemes. As much as we like to think that coaching is a huge part of the game, talent is far and away the biggest factor. My sense is Kelly's defense requires skills most on our current roster don't have. Now it's fair to say he should adjust some things to leverage what talent he has, but that still doesn't overcome the talent issue and players actually executing what they're supposed to do (like tackle, not miss assignments, not commit personal fouls, not jump offiside).

This has to be the longest and most insightful 96Buff post I've seen in my (Holy ****) 15 years on the board.

Prime Effect even has 96 engaged more than telling us to go **** ourselves!

 

[Go Buffs]

 

[jaybird]

Kelly failed with great recruits at Florida State. Kelly's scheme just sucks, and it's always sucked, and it will always suck.

He's a recruiting coordinator at the P5 level.

That's the thing, fsu's defense went on a continuous decline while he was their DC. FSU had some pretty big collapses on the defense during his time, losing games they should not have. Just like losing a game when you are up 29-0 at half.

While I hear those say his recruiting is more important, he just hasn't historically been a quality DC.