Maybe but some others won't.
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Lonzo Ball's dad.
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This looks really bad for Ball and could actually hurt Lonzo's NBA draft rating: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/lav...-coach-lonzo-lamelo-liangelo-ucla-high-school
IMO, won't hurt Lonzo. NBA teams will just laugh in Lavar's face, and won't but up with his bull****. Hasn't affected Lonzo at UCLA. The younger bros though, I'm very worried about them as a fan of good basketball.
He's an idiot. His other kids are good players but not like Lonzo. Say I was a GM, I wouldn't deal with his bull**** and would be upfront about it. He isn't making this about his kids, that's pretty damn obvious. Maybe in a sense he is but he thinks he deserves to benefit off their success because he raised them well? **** that man, jmho. They wanna give back to him fine, shut up already.
JeffCOBuff
Active Member
Ball was far from even being the best guard on the court tonight. Fox went through Ball and
the rest of the UCLA D like butter.
the rest of the UCLA D like butter.
Never heard of a helicopter dad hurting a kid in the NBA before.
"Realistically you can't win no championship with three white guys because the foot speed is too slow,"
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...lavar-ball-casts-blame-ucla-bruins-white-guys
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...lavar-ball-casts-blame-ucla-bruins-white-guys
"No such thing as bad press" seems to be the m.o. here. Welcome to the Lavar Ball reality show. Ratings are huge.
Funny thing is the Arizona team that beat out UCLA for the Pac 12 title had a couple white guys playing pretty prominent roles. A white guy hit the shot that beat the team that UCLA lost to. Two or three of the Zags best players were white guys. Just stupidity. But I'm reacting so joke is on me.
He's got a son going there next year and one of those white players is coming back to school, so I hear anyway. Talk about awkward.
It's not designed to make sense. It's designed to make headlines.
ain't it all.. ain't.it.all.
Of course it is but do you think that might backfire a bit?
How much money have the Kardashians made? How did Trump win the White House? Fame = success in today's America and I suspect that the Ball Brand will benefit greatly from this as long as Lonzo is entertaining enough on a basketball court to justify our continued attention. If he's just another guy, the headlines go away and the statements become irrelevant. If Lonzo's play makes him relevant, then the statements will drive the brand to a much higher value than if Mr. Ball was quiet.
Fair enough, I was really just asking.
I hope I'm wrong. But I believe we've jumped the shark to idiocracy in American culture. As long as someone is interesting, that's more important to us than anything else and we'll give our attention and money for that entertainment. Mr. Ball is not interesting to me personally, but the cultural phenomenon he's playing is very interesting to me. I expect this to work and for Lonzo to be the most marketable player out of this draft by a long shot, even if he's not picked #1.
I doubt he'll drop any lower than 3 but could very well go 1. Points above that, I concur.
I agree.
In this case, the PC police can't get him fired, so reporters will keep shoving a mic in his face hoping he says something similarly controversial next time.
He'll either be 1 or 2. It's him or Fultz.
If a white guy had said "you can't win with 3 undisciplined black guys", it would be the #1 story in sports and Twitter would be outraged at the blatant racism. Not a whole of ****s given in this situation.
dyemeduke
Well-Known Member
Agree and can't ****ing stand it. I hate narcissistic fools that get attention from the media, emboldening them to fall more in love with themselves. I wish ESPN, other media outlets, and the general population would tune a deaf ear to this delusional joke.
I think Ball is 1 or 2... ...but I wouldn't be surprised if Fultz drops. Jackson and Tatum are enticing as well. I think this is a deep class, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone fell in love with Fox over Ball too.
dyemeduke
Well-Known Member
I respect you TD, and I get you. But I respectfully disagree. I think Ball's bball IQ stands out on tape, and that will stand the evaluation process. His athleticism and skills may get scrutinized, but I think his game will keep him top 3. Fultz - he has limited tape, whereas people have seen what Jackson, Fox, Tatum and others can do in big games against top competition.
I also don't get all of the Isaac love... ...the few parts of FSU games I've seen...didn't jump out at all. I get the potential aspect, but just don't get all the love for him. I take Markaanen over him personally.
I also don't get all of the Isaac love... ...the few parts of FSU games I've seen...didn't jump out at all. I get the potential aspect, but just don't get all the love for him. I take Markaanen over him personally.
Forgot about Tatum and Markkanen, man what a stacked class.
Isaac reminds me of that Kevin Durant/Rashard Lewis type where he's only "raw" in that he's too skinny at the moment. Has incredible handles for his size, not quite at a Durant or Giannis level, but is more versatile and shows more defensive instincts than Rashard Lewis. Good shot selection, good with the ball in his hands, can likely play both the 3 and 4, and then of course like you mentioned dat potential. Brandon Ingram was a younger freshman with untapped potential, but Isaac had a better freshman year.
The two silly draft picks I'm hoping happen are Isaac to PHX for the most unusual frontcourt of all time with Bender and Chriss (I know I know not gonna happen
) and DSJ to NYK to combo with Porzingis (could happen).
Isaac reminds me of that Kevin Durant/Rashard Lewis type where he's only "raw" in that he's too skinny at the moment. Has incredible handles for his size, not quite at a Durant or Giannis level, but is more versatile and shows more defensive instincts than Rashard Lewis. Good shot selection, good with the ball in his hands, can likely play both the 3 and 4, and then of course like you mentioned dat potential. Brandon Ingram was a younger freshman with untapped potential, but Isaac had a better freshman year.
The two silly draft picks I'm hoping happen are Isaac to PHX for the most unusual frontcourt of all time with Bender and Chriss (I know I know not gonna happen
) and DSJ to NYK to combo with Porzingis (could happen).
Big Jim
WTF?
Well...that isn't what happened so you are making up **** to change the narrative. Ball dropped the ball on this one. He shouldn't be let off the hook, but that doesn't mean it should be twisted into anything more or different than what it is.
He said there was no way UCLA was going to win with the slow foot speed of 3 white guys. I'm not twisting anything to fit any narrative, but his comments were blatantly racist, but because he's a black man saying it about white people, it's not really condemned as racist.