cubuffs85
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Why can't we be Duke?
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Looking ahead to Oklahoma State
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cubuffs85
Active Member
We aren't going to settle for lowered expectations, I expect nothing but the best... Final Four or bust!
cubuffs85
Active Member
Best analysis of the situation IMO.
rolandftw
Club Member
I could see them start out 17-2, and finish at 23-8. Maybe slightly optimistic tho.
I don't know, you tell me.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Sticking to my preseason 22-9 guns at this point, although I had us 10-3 OOC and now think 11-2
cubuffs85
Active Member
I assume you had KU a loss? And now Ok St? (In addition to Baylor)
iirc, he had us winning one of those but dropping the game at CSU.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
I thought we'd win one of the "big 2" but lose to Harvard or CSU
:lol: I'll be sure to start one when he hits a shot like Ski did on saturday.
look at you!
cubuffs85
Active Member
Oh gotcha, we could've lost either game, so not a bad prediction at all. We know CSU won't ever be an easy win and Harvard is the type of team that can beat us at Coors.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Very pleased to not have been proven right. Although being down 14 to Harvard early in the second and trailing CSU with a few minutes left verified my concerns to a degree.
It'd be nice to see them jump on a team early and not let up. Haven't done that yet. Elon and Georgia are good oppurtunities to do so.
jgisland
Club Member
I had a discussion about Elon on a gambling forum last night - (not that I agree with all of this) but this is what's being said. Everybody plans on being on Elon, they expect the spread to open around 14 and will take Elon as far down as 10. They like the spot for Elon coming between KU and Okie St as a let down game. Elon limits transition opportunities b/c much like UCSB and Wyoming they don't go after a lot of offensive rebounds and they immediately get back on defense. Elon takes a lot of 3's overall and the Tanner Samson kid is a good 3 pt shooter who really only takes 3's, if he gets hot they could keep it somewhat close.
HawaiiBUFF
Well-Known Member
OK State really doesn't have any size on their front court. We all know how potent their guard play is, but this might be a great thing for us. Sure, if you look at their roster, they have Gaskins (6'10), Cox (6'10) and Soucek (7'0), but combined they only average 8.8 mpg/2ppg/3.3rpg. The only height they have on their roster that is producing minutes are 6-8 Murphy (19 mpg/6ppg/6rpg) and 6-8 Cobbins (21.7 mpg/4.6ppg/5.1rpg).
When you break down production and height between rosters this is what is looks like.
Colorado / Oklahoma State
Dinwiddie (6'6) 31.3 min / 15.5 ppg / 4 apg Smart (6'4) 30.1 min / 19.0 ppg / 3.9 apg
Scott (6'10) 27.8 min / 12.4 ppg / 8.6 rpg Brown (6'3) 32.1 min / 15.9 ppg / 3.3 apg
Booker (6'2) 25.5 min / 11.5 ppg / 1.9 apg Nash (6'7) 26.1 min / 13.8 ppg / 6.0 rpg
Johnson (6'7) 26.1 min / 10.0 ppg / 6.1 rpg Forte (5'11) 20.7 min / 11.7 ppg / 1.0 apg
Gordon (6'9) 26.1 min / 7.6 ppg / 6.3 rpg Williams (6'5) 26.5 min / 10.1 ppg / 3.9 rpg
Hopkins (6'5) 16.8 min / 5.4 ppg / 1.3 rpg Clark (5'11) 16.3 min / 7.5 ppg / 3.7 apg
Thomas (6'8) 14.5 / 5.1 ppg / 3.1 rpg Murphy (6'8) 19.0 min / 6.0 ppg / 6.0 rpg
Talton (6'2) 16.0 min / 4.1 ppg / 1.7 apg Cobbins (6'8) 21.7 min / 4.6 ppg / 5.1 rpg
Now let's look at our top five's height vs theirs:
Colorado Average Height (Dinwiddie/Booker/Johnson/Gordon/Scott) - 6'7
Oklahoma State Average Height - 6'5
It's going to be a great game and I am happy we have the size advantage.
When you break down production and height between rosters this is what is looks like.
Colorado / Oklahoma State
Dinwiddie (6'6) 31.3 min / 15.5 ppg / 4 apg Smart (6'4) 30.1 min / 19.0 ppg / 3.9 apg
Scott (6'10) 27.8 min / 12.4 ppg / 8.6 rpg Brown (6'3) 32.1 min / 15.9 ppg / 3.3 apg
Booker (6'2) 25.5 min / 11.5 ppg / 1.9 apg Nash (6'7) 26.1 min / 13.8 ppg / 6.0 rpg
Johnson (6'7) 26.1 min / 10.0 ppg / 6.1 rpg Forte (5'11) 20.7 min / 11.7 ppg / 1.0 apg
Gordon (6'9) 26.1 min / 7.6 ppg / 6.3 rpg Williams (6'5) 26.5 min / 10.1 ppg / 3.9 rpg
Hopkins (6'5) 16.8 min / 5.4 ppg / 1.3 rpg Clark (5'11) 16.3 min / 7.5 ppg / 3.7 apg
Thomas (6'8) 14.5 / 5.1 ppg / 3.1 rpg Murphy (6'8) 19.0 min / 6.0 ppg / 6.0 rpg
Talton (6'2) 16.0 min / 4.1 ppg / 1.7 apg Cobbins (6'8) 21.7 min / 4.6 ppg / 5.1 rpg
Now let's look at our top five's height vs theirs:
Colorado Average Height (Dinwiddie/Booker/Johnson/Gordon/Scott) - 6'7
Oklahoma State Average Height - 6'5
It's going to be a great game and I am happy we have the size advantage.
jgisland
Club Member
I'm working on a stats preview - spoiler the size advantage (while nice) doesn't appear to hurt Oklahoma St's defense, especially their defense at the rim
SECOBuffsFan
Active Member
Any word yet on if Wes Gordon is playing or not?
wyobuff
Well-Known Member
Tad has been saying since before KU that wes will play vs OK st. Though this article from the denver post mentions that wes will be back for Georgia, not Ok St
