Might this be the plan?

[buffaholic]

A. There is no plan
B. THAT offense will require the right players and coaches. EB not.
C. Embree is not a Hagan fan as a pos coach

If there is a plan then it is the Solich plan.

 

[buff4bcs1985]

anything but this. thanks.

what qbacking style does Hagan know?

the jittery interior speed of a triple option QB once LB's were doubled up and ran sideline to sideline?

and throw better than average for an option QB at 50% to usually one of two receivers....

i'll pass on that in today's game.

we all love Darian, but this can't be for real.

we all know the time is the past over. should have been before. Bohn saved his job getting the Mac donors on side for a nostalgia hire. pretty shrewd and Tad is making a case for MB when there was none.....

id rather the entire staff comes back, win no games, they all get fired and we can tell buffs4life to go **** in their hand and die a slow ****ing painful death **** THEM **** YOU KLATT **** YOU EMBREE AND **** YOU SIDESHOW MAC

 

[GoonieBuff]

My fear is that something like this happens, they half-ass the facilities, and the administration thinks the facilities are just fine for another twenty years.

 

[SuperD]

My fear is that something like this happens, they half-ass the facilities, and the administration thinks the facilities are just fine for another twenty years.

They will have to be since they are losing the fan base and a generation of students.

 

[lawdogg]

After more reflection, the plan itself isn't so bad in theory, it's just the personnel associated with the plan that is questionable. Don't necessarily have an issue with a "Football AD" especially since that might persuade Solich to loosen his pursestrings. I don't necessarily have an issue with moving to the spread, though I think we'd have a better shot at the air raid version with our QBs on the roster. I certainly don't have an issue with facility upgrades, which are desperately needed. It's just the names associated with some of these positions that is concerning.

 

[Highlander]

I'm deathly afraid Nik is serious.

 

[Walter White]

BFD. The ship has sailed. It is showing in the inability to recruit. You can either recruit or coach in CFB. If you can do one of the two, you'll win more than you lose (i.e. Mack Brown) If you can do both, you'll be very successful (i.e. Saban). Embo cannot do either.

You do realize that Texas won more games than any other BCS school over a ten year stretch, including a national championship, playing for another national championship, multiple BCS bowl wins, extremely high winning % against other ranked teams, lots of top rankings at end of the season. Saban is the gold standard, but MB did a lot more than just "win more than lose". Other than Saban and maybe Meyer, who has laid down better results than Brown?

 

[SuperD]

I'm deathly afraid Nik is serious.

This was floated over on Rivals that there is smoke this is the plan and that the admin thinks fans are going to be excited about it...well except for all of us Internet nut jobs apparently. Something like this has been hinted at on Buffscoop as well if u connect the dots.

 

[dio]

I think that Dal Ward should be renamed the Dal Ward Country Club with a sign that says 'Buffs4Life Members Only - Fans Not Welcome and Will Be Escorted from Folsom Field'

 

[BuffClass90]

Only thing I like is facilities upgrade.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

To whom exactly would the Athletic Director for Football answer? And what would his responsibilities be?

 

[Buffnik]

To whom exactly would the Athletic Director for Football answer? And what would his responsibilities be?

The way I have heard it explained is that the organizational flow chart would have him on the same line as the Athletic Director, not reporting to the AD.

 

[SINKRATZ]

Mac having authority over Embree's employment status would be the worst part of that plan IMO. I'd rather keep Embree one more year, than give Mac final say so over Embree's job status...he'll be here for years and Mac will resign before ever firing Embree.

So no, bad plan.

 

[Duff Man]

Say hello to Jon Embree as head coach for 2014.

 

[89BUFF89]

We're doomed.

 

[SuperD]

The way I have heard it explained is that the organizational flow chart would have him on the same line as the Athletic Director, not reporting to the AD.

Only at CU...if you don't think your AD can do the job you hired him to do then show some leadership and fire the guy and hire someone you trust (I am NOT in the fire Bohn camp btw), but don't be spineless and try to keep every constituency happy by hiring for a duplicate position, particularly when there are reasonable questions about the objectivity of the person who will be overseeing the staff. If Bohn is not okay with this plan and it really does include hire/fire/extension powers it would essentially be a hostile takeover of the AD.

This smacks of the admin throwing up their hands and saying give these guys what they want so I don't have to hear about or deal with this crap I don't care about, and we have someone to blame if it doesnt work. Trying not to jump to conclusions or form an opinion until we have more details

 

[BuffClass90]

How about this for a plan:
Fire the staff
Spend $2-3 million on a legit HC with proven ability to beat Oregon and USC (Mason, Chavis)
Announce facility upgrade
Create General Studies major
Allocate a permanent, large number of admission exemptions.

 

[bigbang2]

1. Fire Embree
2. Fire EB
3. Fire Greg Brown
4. Keep Kennedy
5. Keep DL coach, fire Magee to make room for a full time Secondary coach.
6. Fire Cabral
7. Fire Brookhart

8. Hire a new AD, an AD with experience on the job, proven record
9. Replace the fired coaches and hire a secondary coach.

 

[lawdogg]

We're doomed.

 

[Buffnik]

How about this for a plan:
Fire the staff
Spend $2-3 million on a legit HC with proven ability to beat Oregon and USC (Mason, Chavis)
Announce facility upgrade
Create General Studies major
Allocate a permanent, large number of admission exemptions.

To points 1 & 2, the counter-argument is:

- Changing coaches again at this time would set the program back 5 years, maybe 10
- CU cannot attract the type of coach the vocal complainers would want

 

[Buffalo Brad]

The way I have heard it explained is that the organizational flow chart would have him on the same line as the Athletic Director, not reporting to the AD.

If that happens I cannot see us getting out of this mess for at least a decade. Cannot see Mac ever pulling the trigger on Embo. We really need to stop the whole nepotism with friends thing. This has to be the most dysfunctional AD in the land.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

I can certainly see where Bohn might actually like the idea of getting out from under the football mess. Let the B4L guys who are so hellbent on running the program just have at it. Meanwhile, Bohn can continue to operate men's basketball, women's basketball, etc.

 

[buffalocu81]

If this is the plan being floated, then MB ought to be a man and resign. I understand being neutered some of the time, but to create a position which removes part of your responsibility and authority is gutless and cowardly. Be a man Mike and resign. This plan is so f*cked up in so many ways it is truly funny. We could never hire a quality coach as who would step into this crap. Dr. Tom has no much on Mac it is not even funny.

 

[CarolinaBuff]

Embree returns
EB returns
Facilities are announced. Its not the full monty, but it's a good upgrade.
McCartney is announced as Football AD
Offense is spread/option (based on Oregon's)
Hagan announced as QB Coach (he knows that style of quarterbacking)

How would you guys feel about this?

Meh. At best.

 

[bigbang2]

We have been recruiting for the pro-style offense for 3 years now. Sefo and Dillon are pro-style QB. Changing to the spread offense will set us back even more. We need to stay with the pro-style offense, there is nothing wrong with the offense, the problem is the Offensive Co-coordinator is not innovative enough and most of our guys are young.

 

[somebody]

Say hello to Jon Embree as head coach for 2014.

Agreed. He will need a minimum of 2 years to implement that offense. Finally, a plan that makes sense.

 

[ElCunado]

Please no. Please no.

 

[Highlander27]

To points 1 & 2, the counter-argument is:

- Changing coaches again at this time would set the program back 5 years, maybe 10
- CU cannot attract the type of coach the vocal complainers would want

If your first thought when you get out of bed in the morning is CAN'T, you damn sure WON'T.

-Warrior

This program is run by a bunch of ****ing losers. No doubt why this flagging program is sinking farther and farther every year.

 

[White_Rabbit]

I've been pretty much assuming Embree would get next year. I didn't like it, but felt like it was inevitable. I did not consider that this program would double down on awful by bringing in Mac to be head administrator guy who will no doubt want to give Embree at least 2-3 more years. I'm quite upset right now. We've all survived a lame duck year with Hawk recently, we can do a year of it. But 2-3 years of it? The talk of this program "dying" seemed like hyperbole to me, but no more does it feel that way.

 

[Duff Man]

We have being recruiting for the pro-style offense for 3 years now. Sefo and Dillon are pro-style QB. Changing to the spread offense will set us back even more. We need to stay with the pro-style offense, there is nothing wrong with the offense, the problem is the Offensive Co-coordinator is not innovative enough and most of our guys are young.

I thought you said something differently about Sefo:

Kid looks good. Dual threat QB that can throw. Now that USC got the kid that looks like Peyton on film. My top 2 QB are Sefo and Kinkade. Both guys have a chance to develop into the next RG3.