Why? If the money was in place, you'd think the premium should have been on football knowledge. But they ran Belotti out to hire the accountant for some strange reason.
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Mike Bohn replacment qualifications discussion
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Why? If the money was in place, you'd think the premium should have been on football knowledge. But they ran Belotti out to hire the accountant for some strange reason.
I'm a little surprised by what people value in an AD. Perhaps we've forgotten that an AD's job is not just hiring coaches every few years. It is making smart business decisions, motivating alumni, selling and image, and marketing the school. We need someone smart, savvy, hardworking that knows how to raise and manage money.
Of course we want someone that cares about football success, but I would prefer the new hire's strength to be business with a willingness to make calculated risks to benefit the program.
Of course we want someone that cares about football success, but I would prefer the new hire's strength to be business with a willingness to make calculated risks to benefit the program.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Mike Bohn replacment rumor thread
Does buff4life even exist anymore? I thought that cult died with Water Bottle.
Does buff4life even exist anymore? I thought that cult died with Water Bottle.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Mike Bohn replacment rumor thread
When has CU's athletic department ever raised money?
When has CU's athletic department ever raised money?
EddieCrowder
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If in fact Rick George is interested in the job I think its because of the turmoil in the Rangers ownership group, and the power struggle that occured over the winter within the organization. Part of the ownership group wanted Nolan Ryan out, and for John Daniels to be in charge, while the other part wanted things to remain the same, Ryan as team president, and Daniels as GM. In the end Ryan was stripped of a large portion of his power and I see this as his last year in Arlington especially since his son Reed just took over the Astro's. I think next season Nolan is home on the ranch in Alvin or working with Reed (they do still own the Round Rock Express in Austin). Long and short of it R. George just might think it is time to get out if he has a viable option
SINKRATZ
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You just described Bohn...again.
nolabuff
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I'm up for Rick George. He sounds like he could be a good fundraiser. Here's an old article I found about him from New Orleans' paper...
Gotta love the quotes:
“I always thought he could be a CEO in any field he went to,” Rodrigue said. “He’s such a people person. We always described him, when he entered a room, he was like a roach in a match box. He was so eager to meet everybody.”
Rick has exceptional people skills,” Rangers President/Chief Executive Officer Nolan Ryan told PGATour.com when George’s hiring was announced. “While his track record and achievements certainly are impressive, his ability to build relationships with everyone around him truly sets him apart.”
http://www.nola.com/zephyrs/index.ssf/2011/09/ex-no_resident_george_in_a_who.html
Gotta love the quotes:
“I always thought he could be a CEO in any field he went to,” Rodrigue said. “He’s such a people person. We always described him, when he entered a room, he was like a roach in a match box. He was so eager to meet everybody.”
Rick has exceptional people skills,” Rangers President/Chief Executive Officer Nolan Ryan told PGATour.com when George’s hiring was announced. “While his track record and achievements certainly are impressive, his ability to build relationships with everyone around him truly sets him apart.”
http://www.nola.com/zephyrs/index.ssf/2011/09/ex-no_resident_george_in_a_who.html
You do realize that Mike Bohn was an associate AD at CSU and Air Force before becoming the AD at Idaho and SDSU BEFORE coming to CU, right? So you're suggesting we hire Mike Bohn?
And this in a nutshell is an Athletic Director. He doesn't have to know the inside details of the football program, the basketball program, the cross country program. He has to be able to manage people and resources so that those people who do know the details can and do succeed at their jobs. It is about being a motivator, about finding, developing, and allocating resources, about setting a direction and anticipating opportunity and risk and dealing with each.
If the guy has those skills his specific background in getting them doesn't matter. As far as I am concerned the guy could come from the NHL or a NASCAR team if he can do the job. In some ways it might even be better that he hasn't been directly involved in football recently. The easiest way to screw someone up in their job is to try to micromanage them when they know the job better than you do. Let M2 manage football on a day to day basis and set the direction for the program. The AD should only be concerned with two questions, is he setting a positive direction and does he have the support he needs to do it.
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This hire will go a long way toward showing us just how committed CU is to athletics. This is a chance for the University to kick off the resurrection of CU athletics/AD. This hire will make or break our fundraising efforts. I believe this is a monumental moment in CU athletics history.
Gold
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How can you compare Idaho and SDSU with Kentucky and Maryland? Kentucky's budget was $79M! Big leagues vs. bush leagues.
Mike Bohn replacment rumor thread
You never said how big of an athletic budget the guy had to work with. You just said that somebody with previous AD experience was ideal.
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You never said how big of an athletic budget the guy had to work with. You just said that somebody with previous AD experience was ideal.
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Gold
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They hired someone with experience managing huge budgets at a similar college. If we got someone with experience managing a $79M budget at the college level that would be great for us. Are you against that?
Of course not. What I was against was your original position that the impetus was to hire someone with expertise in football as a priority over hiring a fundraising & finance person.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
But wait, I thought we HAD to hire a "football guy", but now you're ok with hiring an AD who has run two traditional basketball schools. You are all over the place - this is why you're getting so much flak.
Gold
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If we think big, our next AD isn't coming from Idaho and pointing to a $350k stadium renovation as his major accomplishment. And if this firing was about money, our next guy should be an expert at big money college athletics.
Gold
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Who says he's not footballl savvy? In the last 4 years of Mullens tenure, UK was very competitive in football relative to their historical performance. I believe all winning seasons and bowl games.
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You're really draining the available talent pool for this hire.
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You're really draining the available talent pool for this hire.
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Gold
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My bad. Idaho you're back in play.
SINKRATZ
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The Vandal Athletics Center cost millions and is beautiful by the way.
Let me see if I had this straight:
Bohn, a collegiate athlete who played football and baseball, and who had been an AD at two stops prior to coming to CU was a risky hire. But, a guy like Mullens who was a Deputy Director (i.e not an AD and therefore the buck didn't stop at his desk with respect to their budget, the coaching hires, or the on-field product) at a basketball school, is the kind of guy we need to go after.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
First lets remember he wasn't even the AD there, he was a deputy. Regardless Kentucky football went 46-52 during his tenure and lost at least 5 games every season. What about that background tells you he was "football savvy"?
Gold
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You're omitting important facts to support your argument. I'll fill in the blanks:
1. Mullens finished his lenghy tenure at UK with football having a winning record 4 years straight
2. Just in case anyone forgot, they play football in the SEC and are historic doormats
3. Mullens also managed a budget of $79M
4. Bohn was at SDSU for 18 months
5. Bohn's main qualification came as Idaho AD
6. Bohn left Idaho as the football team suffered 4 straight losing seasons, including 1-10 and 2-10 seasons.
Do you see how these are two different candidates and not easily comparable?
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agreed, title changed.
SINKRATZ
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1. Mullens was not the AD at Kentucky, and didn't hire the coaching staff - how you can equate his football know-how to the record of their football team?
2. To play along with your ridiculous argument, Kentucky went 7-6 his last year with a loss in the Music City Bowl - Big Time!!
3. The Kentucky AD had a $79M budget, not Mullens. The AD is ultimately responsible for the department budget and hires guys like Mullens to handle some of that work.
4. Bohn had run 2 athletic departments before coming to CU. You can call them small schools if you want, but Mullens NEVER had the top job anywhere before going to Oregon. Go read the bio of Kentucky's current Deputy Director of Athletics an tell me with a straight face he wouldn't be a risky hire.
Gold
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So Mullens was an unqualified candidate and should be non-credited for any UK success? And Bohn, coming off 4 straight losing FB seasons at Idaho, and 1 at SDSU, was better qualified.
Well there you have it. An AD with 5 straight FB losing seasons at the MWC/WAC level > than Mullens. I can't argue with that logic out of principle. Would be a huge waste of time.
Well there you have it. An AD with 5 straight FB losing seasons at the MWC/WAC level > than Mullens. I can't argue with that logic out of principle. Would be a huge waste of time.
Regardless of who is hired, this is Bensons & DeStiffs one and only chance to prove they really want CU football to be great again. If they haven't figured that out by now, they never will.