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Mike MacIntyre officially fired effective immediately

I had several business classes with Barry Helton, and he cheated like a mother ****er. And I am still pissed about it, bitches.
 
Wyo Buff said:
Also, and I'm serious about this, they need a better nutrition and conditioning program to put meat on the boys when they come in.

The group they have now, with the right nutrition and conditions program will be pretty good next year and will be absolutely dominant, barring injury, in year two of whoever our new coach is.
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I disagree with some minor points in your post, but on these two points I really think you're 100% right.

We've got a good young core that needs the right nutrition, training and coaching regimen to be pretty darn good in a couple years.

Got to keep the hopper filled behind them though - no more of this "we have a decent line every 4-5 years if we get lucky and they all develop, and none get injured and none lose eligibility for other reasons" nonsense.
 
GawainBuff said:
If you recall, too, the Georgia game was a bit fluky as a win: As I recall, A.J. Green was out for the first half (maybe a suspension), when he got into the second half, he tourched us (including on of the greatest catches made in Folsom) and we were going down fast. Luckily, he sprained his ankle and we - barely - survived.

Even the wins were barely and lucky.
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Sold his jersey in the off season, suspended first half. Pulled his hammy in the second. Was making one handed catches, putting together a Heisman reel until he got hurt.
 
Ralfie said:
I can’t remember if Craig Ochs was any good...I remember Bobby Pesavento (my boy!) and Joel Klatt....Ochs was kinda that era, no?
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Only thing I remember about Pesavento was when Oregon shut down our run game in the fiesta bowl, he looked about as effective as Cody Hawkins on a standard day.
 
Craig Ochs could play.
He would have made the NFL if not for concussions.


The more I think about the firing of FHCMM, the more I"m liking it.
I was a big fan and loved his attitude, but we NEVER saw him get angry at a losing streak. If the head coach ain't angry, something ain't right.

So, I'm excited to see who we bring in next.
 
thisbuff said:
I would much prefer their posts to yours, but go ahead and fight em off for us guy. Mac was last in pac12 south 5 of 6 years. He was better than Hawk and Embree, but that is such a low standard.
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Chill. Like I’ve said I’m glad he’s moved on. I just don’t like tarnishing his legacy. Mac has been good to me personally as well as many of my friends on and off the field. Was Mac a great motivator? No. But he cared for his players and the stories being told are either exaggerated or false. That’s what ticked me off.
 
FightCu1414 said:
Chill. Like I’ve said I’m glad he’s moved on. I just don’t like tarnishing his legacy. Mac has been good to me personally as well as many of my friends on and off the field. Was Mac a great motivator? No. But he cared for his players and the stories being told are either exaggerated or false. That’s what ticked me off.
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One thing that I appreciate about HCMM is that we didn't have any substantial off field issues with the players. Sure there were a few things here an there, but HCMM didn't put up with it. Players were released from the team and only after a substantial amount of time, he allowed most of them back in. He was a good teacher from that regard. (Ok, cue the 'life champions' comments now...)
 
married2abuff said:
One thing that I appreciate about HCMM is that we didn't have any substantial off field issues with the players. Sure there were a few things here an there, but HCMM didn't put up with it. Players were released from the team and only after a substantial amount of time, he allowed most of them back in. He was a good teacher from that regard. (Ok, cue the 'life champions' comments now...)
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There was a VERY SUBSTANTIAL off field issue with our coaching staff. He should have been fired right there on the spot. That does our program much more harm than an 18 yo kid getting in trouble
 
brockbuff said:
There was a VERY SUBSTANTIAL off field issue with our coaching staff. He should have been fired right there on the spot. That does our program much more harm than an 18 yo kid getting in trouble
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That's a polarizing topic on AB where many feel strongly that he followed the protocol that he was told versus that he should have known better regardless. I get both sides but for me, I rest the majority of the blame on DiStefano and lean more on giving Mac a partial pass. I know that doesn't rest well with many, but I believe he thought he was doing the right thing. I didn't intent to re-open this debate so I'll agree that incident was definitely the darkest cloud on the program during his tenure.
 
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FightCu1414 said:
Chill. Like I’ve said I’m glad he’s moved on. I just don’t like tarnishing his legacy. Mac has been good to me personally as well as many of my friends on and off the field. Was Mac a great motivator? No. But he cared for his players and the stories being told are either exaggerated or false. That’s what ticked me off.
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His W-L record is hard to argue with. I know what he stepped into, but he just didn't meet expectations. He had new facilities and a bunch more support / time / money than the last couple guys and on his way out basically said no one can win at Colorado. Always had a way of deflecting responsibility for losses and problems within the program.

Nice Ned Flanders type guy who cared about the players outside of football, yes. I wish he could have won more. No great wins over winning programs. I get that you were close to the guy, but maybe both you and the parents chiming in are looking at things with shaded glasses. I appreciate their takes too.
 
married2abuff said:
One thing that I appreciate about HCMM is that we didn't have any substantial off field issues with the players. Sure there were a few things here an there, but HCMM didn't put up with it. Players were released from the team and only after a substantial amount of time, he allowed most of them back in. He was a good teacher from that regard. (Ok, cue the 'life champions' comments now...)
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It's ****ing ridiculous!

The nation laughs at Butch Jones claiming a Life Championship at Tennessee even more than they laugh at UCF claiming a national championship.

Everyone knows that Colorado won that Life Championship and is a ****ing unchallenged dynasty in this regard!
 
Buffnik said:
It's ****ing ridiculous!

The nation laughs at Butch Jones claiming a Life Championship at Tennessee even more than they laugh at UCF claiming a national championship.

Everyone knows that Colorado won that Life Championship and is a ****ing unchallenged dynasty in this regard!
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Huh? Not following... What does Butch Jones 'life championship' claim have to do with Colorado?
 
married2abuff said:
Huh? Not following... What does Butch Jones 'life championship' claim have to do with Colorado?
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Context of his Life Championship claim and all the things that he put forward as just as important (or more important) than winning. Colorado has been doing that at such an elite level that it pisses me off that anyone else would claim that title.
 
Buffnik said:
Context of his Life Championship claim and all the things that he put forward as just as important (or more important) than winning. Colorado has been doing that at such an elite level that it pisses me off that anyone else would claim that title.
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Ah...gotcha.
 
Buffnik said:
Context of his Life Championship claim and all the things that he put forward as just as important (or more important) than winning. Colorado has been doing that at such an elite level that it pisses me off that anyone else would claim that title.
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So can you become Assistant to the Assistant Athletic Director or something? Getting your takes and ideas in their ears would be cool. Seriously.
 
brockbuff said:
There was a VERY SUBSTANTIAL off field issue with our coaching staff. He should have been fired right there on the spot. That does our program much more harm than an 18 yo kid getting in trouble
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You are wrong. An Administration that throws its coach under the bus even after he follows protocol does more damage than all of the above. You will never hear me defend MM, except when it comes to the Tumpkin ''controversy''.
 
hawg1 said:
He followed protocol? That’s not what the final report said.
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He followed the protocol he had been trained in. It is completely unreasonable to change a rule or procedure, not inform those expected to follow it, then hold them accountable.

Could it have been handled better? Certainly but we are talking about a football coach not a law enforcement official, a counselor, a lawyer, etc. He looked for guidance from those who should have known and they failed him. In no way should that come down on him.

Fact is that MM insured that the (at the time alleged) victim was safe and reported to his direct superiors. If anyone should take the fall for the whole thing it is Dr. Phil.
 
Anyone heard from Mac? I’m worried about him. He’s got free time and a lot of money. That’s a recipe for disaster.
 
CULifer said:
So can you become Assistant to the Assistant Athletic Director or something? Getting your takes and ideas in their ears would be cool. Seriously.
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I’d be a little concerned that power might go to @Buffnik’s heads, putting him in the center of the next scandal. We (AB) can’t afford the risk.
 
DBT said:
Anyone heard from Mac? I’m worried about him. He’s got free time and a lot of money. That’s a recipe for disaster.
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I think it’d be great for him to experiment with psychadelics. Maybe they’ll expand his mind a bit.
 
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